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So all this debate you've not actually known what we were talking about? :rolleyes: And no, not imaginary. There is a large and increasing number of men who basically have foregone real life inter-sexual interaction and now just live off video games and porn. You think they are non-existent or a mere handful? You're hugely naïve - there are tonnes of them!
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Within a few posts you've gone from defining "incels" as men who hate women (genuinely hate women, not the usual false accusation levelled at anyone who commits thoughtcrime in any way), are violent, think raping women is fine, etc, etc, to defining "incels" as men who don't have sexual relationships. Then a few posts further on you switch back again.

You're moving the goalposts to a ridiculous extent in order to present a false image of vast hordes of violent women-hating men who are a huge danger. That's good propaganda, but it's not reality. It's been used a lot because it's politically effective - identity politics and fear is a potent combination for gaining power. The target varies, of course, with the propaganda tailored for the ideology and the time. Stories about loads of Jews murdering Christian babies for religious rituals in medieval Europe, for example. Reds under the bed in McCarthyite USA, for example.
 
That's what I've noticed, everyone keeps changing the meaning, or making one up to suit their own narrative and give themselves a slap on the back.
 
Incels are absolutely pathetic and worrying tbh for the future of the west.

Meanwhile, we have Afgans and other asylum seekers banging our western chicks by force.

What the internets has done to people is frightening, they would rather be paying women over a webcam, than meeting up in real life. We can only go downhill from here. Its like people are not living real lives any more. The other day one of my colleagues mentioned he had a girlfriend. I was like "oh wow, how longs that been going on, how did you two meet etc etc?"

Turns out its a bird on the other side of the world and they had never even met in real life. How can a virtual girlfriend even be called a girlfriend?

Pure madness. I wish I had lived during WW2, when men where men.
 
Incels are absolutely pathetic and worrying tbh for the future of the west.

Meanwhile, we have Afgans and other asylum seekers banging our western chicks by force.

What the internets has done to people is frightening, they would rather be paying women over a webcam, than meeting up in real life. We can only go downhill from here. Its like people are not living real lives any more. The other day one of my colleagues mentioned he had a girlfriend. I was like "oh wow, how longs that been going on, how did you two meet etc etc?"

Turns out its a bird on the other side of the world and they had never even met in real life. How can a virtual girlfriend even be called a girlfriend?

Pure madness. I wish I had lived during WW2, when men where men.

Good chance you would have died then too....

Every generation goes through this "crisis"
 
Well it's not just this, technology has been shifting things in a depressingly detached direction in many ways for years now...

Case in point... it's Christmas soon - my memories growing up are of everyone gathered round, having drinks, laughs, playing party games and board games, maybe a minimal amount of TV during the middle part of the evening... but what is it lately? Everyone sat on their phones/tablets/laptops, barely speaking to one another except to occasionally show something they've seen online. Younger people in general sometimes can barely even hold a conversation "IRL" because it's just not the done thing anymore *shakes walking stick*
 
Well it's not just this, technology has been shifting things in a depressingly detached direction in many ways for years now...

Case in point... it's Christmas soon - my memories growing up are of everyone gathered round, having drinks, laughs, playing party games and board games, maybe a minimal amount of TV during the middle part of the evening... but what is it lately? Everyone sat on their phones/tablets/laptops, barely speaking to one another except to occasionally show something they've seen online. Younger people in general sometimes can barely even hold a conversation "IRL" because it's just not the done thing anymore *shakes walking stick*

I still play silly games with my family and my parents are in their mid-late 60's and my sisters are in their 40's...

Last year it was Cards against Humanity, this year it might be Taskmaster.
 
Within a few posts you've gone from defining "incels" as men who hate women (genuinely hate women, not the usual false accusation levelled at anyone who commits thoughtcrime in any way), are violent, think raping women is fine, etc, etc, to defining "incels" as men who don't have sexual relationships. Then a few posts further on you switch back again.

It's both. It's a derogatory term. It doesn't apply to every male who can't get sex. It doesn't apply to every male who is misogynist. It applies to a particular culture-group of males who are both. It's not a contradiction, it's an intersection.

You're moving the goalposts to a ridiculous extent in order to present a false image of vast hordes of violent women-hating men who are a huge danger.

I don't believe I commented anywhere on the degree to which such people are a danger. They harass people online a lot. They have been known to cause problems through doxing, false claims and, in our current example, a campaign of setting the IRS on a hated group. Generally they don't go beyond that, though. But that is enough. As to "vast hordes"? Yes - there are loads of them. And they have a disproportionately loud online voice on top of that. I suspect you have never run across them in numbers as you seem to think they're not a thing.
 
It's both. It's a derogatory term. It doesn't apply to every male who can't get sex. It doesn't apply to every male who is misogynist. It applies to a particular culture-group of males who are both. It's not a contradiction, it's an intersection.

You're not using it as an intersection. You're taking two extremely different things and switching between them in order to create a false impression of large numbers for political use.

I don't believe I commented anywhere on the degree to which such people are a danger.

You think there are vast hordes of violent genuinely women-hating men who like rape, blah blah blah. If that was true, it would be a huge danger.

I'll do the same thing in a much less serious way:

There are a lot of cats in the UK.
There are some tigers in the world and tigers are cats.
Some tigers are actively hostile to humans.

There's a VAST HORDE of person-eating tigers in the UK!

But hey, I'm not commenting on the degree to which a vast horde of person-eating tigers is a danger.

They harass people online a lot. They have been known to cause problems through doxing, false claims and, in our current example, a campaign of setting the IRS on a hated group. Generally they don't go beyond that, though. But that is enough. As to "vast hordes"? Yes - there are loads of them. And they have a disproportionately loud online voice on top of that. I suspect you have never run across them in numbers as you seem to think they're not a thing.

I don't seem to think that at all. If I thought that, I would have said that. What I'm disagreeing with is mainly the deception you're using to erect a flimsy facade you can use to pretend there's any justification for your entirely fictitious claim regarding their numbers. I'm also disagreeing with that ludicrous inflation of numbers. "Not that many" is not the same as "none at all". I'm sure you're aware that there are numbers smaller than a vast horde and greater than zero.

In the middle ages, there were a few people who used poison or attempted to use magic for malicious purposes. Does that mean that there was the vast horde of evil witches that many people in that time and place believed existed? Or was it just propaganda made up by people who benefitted from it?

I don't doubt that there are some very sexist men. Sexism causes sexism, with each strain of it feeding the other.
 
Its quite sad to think of these losers sat in their bedrooms/basements unable to sort out sex/girlfriends in real life, but then again, its almost as sad that you have so many women willing to effectively whore themselves for money.

What a toxic combination, and utterly depressing.
 
Its quite sad to think of these losers sat in their bedrooms/basements unable to sort out sex/girlfriends in real life, but then again, its almost as sad that you have so many women willing to effectively whore themselves for money.

What a toxic combination, and utterly depressing.

Society has always had its outcasts and its whores, the population is just far larger now and technology makes any issue seem far more popular than it really is.
 
Society has always had its outcasts and its whores, the population is just far larger now and technology makes any issue seem far more popular than it really is.

I hope so, because right now it seems we live in an age of ever declining moral standards. Violence, stabbings, online-whoring, incels shooting up the place, people driven mad by consumerism.
What the answer is I do not know, education, parenting and some enlightenment perhaps.

I found my peace in physics and cosmology, really made me see human beings and the world for what it was. Seeing clones, clamouring around sheer nonsense like "black" Friday etc etc, its pathetic and sad.

In a lot of poorer places, Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, Bosnia etc, people can be happy with their health, family, beautiful wife etc, they dont always need this materialistic, snapchat driven, vacuous lifestyle, but its creeping into these traditional and orthodox places more and more.
 
Its quite sad to think of these losers sat in their bedrooms/basements unable to sort out sex/girlfriends in real life
It's nice to know that you view people with social anxiety as losers.

There are other causes besides that, of course. I guess the many and varied causes of inability to form close relationships are all symptomatic of being a loser, tho?
 
It's nice to know that you view people with social anxiety as losers.

There are other causes besides that, of course. I guess the many and varied causes of inability to form close relationships are all symptomatic of being a loser, tho?

You do know there are people in this world that see things as fun as what you or others would hate. People all make their own choices. Plus I'm sure they're really thinking what some people said about them on an Overclockers forum. It's just the way it is.

It doesn't mean they have a mental disorder. Then there are opportunists.
 
It's nice to know that you view people with social anxiety as losers.

There are other causes besides that, of course. I guess the many and varied causes of inability to form close relationships are all symptomatic of being a loser, tho?

So someone sitting in their bedroom paying women to strip on a webcam, jacking off because they are unable to form actual relationships in real life are winners? If not, then you have the answer!

Sorry flakes, lifes tough, life is cruel, if you don't man up and get out there, life passes you by and you end up a bitter, middle aged virgin, who might well go onto molest young girls or hate society, and it could have so easily been avoided.

Mental "illness" is just an excuse, sorry thats all it is. Everyone is weird in their own way.
 
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Sorry flakes, lifes tough, life is cruel, if you don't man up and get out there, life passes you by and you end up a bitter, middle aged virgin, who might well go onto molest young girls or hate society, and it could have so easily been avoided.

Mental "illness" is just an excuse, sorry thats all it is. Everyone is weird in their own way.
LOL.

4/10 would lol again.
 
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