Threadripper yes or no?

[the wopster]

yes I know I have a 5ghz 8700K and yes I know I have only had it 3 months but I have definitely noticed when doing other stuff(not gaming) that it’s definitely slower than than my previous ryzen 1700 it a excellent chip for gaming though but I am regretting moving from ryzen to coffeelake, so I’m now going back to AMD but is threadripper worth it over a 1800x and will then new threadripper chips be compatible with X399 boards?

 

[the wopster]

How much gaming do you do in comparison to workloads?
Your 8700K @5ghz is very comparable to a stock 1700 so you shouldn't notice a difference imo.

I have definitely noticed the difference when ripping and reencoding the loss of the 4 threads

 

[the wopster]

What programs are you using? Anandtech has shown the 8700k to mix with ryzen on CPU heavy tasks https://www.anandtech.com/show/1185...lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers/10

Anyhow, you moved from the 1700 for a reason so maybe a 1800x isn't for you. Threadripper might be your cup of tea.

I regret moving from ryzen to coffeelake and wouldn’t be willing to move back if my brother didn’t want my chip and board for a small loss, Im just in 2 minds to go TR or back to a ryzen 1800x, I know that the new ryzen2 is compatible with x370 but can’t find what’s coming on the TR side and if it’s going to be compatible with X399

 

[the wopster]

Just wait until the next chip is out, then you can get a board that will support all of its features perfectly and no compromises.

I would do that but my brother is itching to get his hands on my current chip and board, I have just ordered this
£299.99 x 1 - AMD Ryzen Threadripper Eight Core 1900X 4.00GHz (Socket TR4) Processor - Retail
£66.66 x 1 - EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy EVO Threadripper Edition - Full Nickel
£283.29 x 1 - Asus ROG Strix X399-E AMD X399 (Socket TR4) DDR4 E-ATX Motherboard
Sub-Total: 649.94
Shipping: 0
VAT: 129.99
Total: 779.93

 

[the wopster]

Go for the 1920x at least so it is a bigger step up. Not that the 1900x is bad I have one but I was more interested in platform storage abilities than what CPU I had.

I would have done that but for the first time the wife was adimnent that I couldn’t spend any more than I got for my current kit, after all this will be the 3rd time I have changed my cpu and board since March/April last year

 

[the wopster]

You might want to check reviews of water blocks too, the EK doesn't review well.

Really I have always regarded them rather highly, is there still a temperature offset of has that been sorted in bios updates

 

[the wopster]

Yes they are generally good but cut corners for TR unfortunately so not recommended.

Thanks for that, I will cancel tomorrow morning. I will get the XSPC block

 

[the wopster]

Only really worth going TR if you're going to go more than 8 threads. 1920X minimum, otherwise wait for Ryzen 2 in April.

TR refresh isn't due until later in the year, and will be compatible with current boards just like Ryzen 2 is on AM4.

My mrs relented and let me change the chip for a 1920x

 

[the wopster]

Well played Is your ram 4 sticks? or 2 x 16?

4x8 mate, it worked at its rated speed 3200mhz with my 1700 so hope it will be ok with my TR

 

[the wopster]

I take it liquid metal is ok on threadripper?

 

[the wopster]

You might want to check reviews of water blocks too, the EK doesn't review well.

Mate what temps do you see on your chip? I’m seeing 75c @3.8ghz 1.36v and cant get anywhere near 4ghz on my custom loop

 

[the wopster]

With 1.35V on my 1920X running at 3.975GHz, my ek block manages to maintain 75 degrees under prime in place fma3 testing. Initially, it was getting up to nearly 90 degrees as the first attempt at applying thermal paste was evidently poor. I used a large blob in the centre of the Z in ryzen on the ihs.

I’m at 1.38v trying to get 3.9 stable but falling at the minute, what do you have your soc voltage at? Do you use LLC if you do what setting? I have used the cross method for the paste

 

[the wopster]

Vcore is set to 1.325V (custom p-state vid of 24 & fid of 9f)
Vcore soc is set to offset +0.01250V (gives 1.128V)
CPU Vcore LLC is set to low

This is on a gigabyte gaming 7 board.

I think I might have 3.9 stable at 1.38v in the bios, soc is 1.25v and set LLC to auto, max temp was 77c. I’m a little disappointed not to get to 4ghz especially seeing most chips hit 4ghz at 1.35v

 

[the wopster]

That 100Mhz will make little to no difference, don't worry about it. I've had mine up to 4.2 and for the extra performance offered up it's not really worth it, I just leave it at 3.9 with sensible temps and volts.

What are your stress temps at 3.9?