Ticket touting... Do or Dont?

[Kristoph]

Because of the argument that people are willing to pay more for their ticket. Regardless of what price the tickets face value is, if there is someone out there willing to pay £50+ for a ticket than that is potential revenue/profit for the artist/management.

How would you like it if you were selling a guitar and advertised it in the paper for £50. The buyer comes to see it and says "cool i'll take it, i could get £75 for that easily". Dont you think you'd want to change your mind and re-advertise it the next day for £75? The point is, if there's someone out there willing to pay £75 for your guitar, you should be the one to get that.

I'm sorry, but whatever way you put it, buying tickets with the intent to sell them on straight away is just a horrible practice.

If the seller didn't have the initiative to sell it at the right price, then of course they don't deserve the cash. You telling me if someone was selling an xbox360 for £50 and you knew you could sell it for £150 - you'd tell the person who was selling it and not snap up a chance to make a quick buck?

You telling me these people on TV that buy things at carboot sales / antique shops and sell them for more at auction are as bad?

 

[Tefal]

Because of the argument that people are willing to pay more for their ticket. Regardless of what price the tickets face value is, if there is someone out there willing to pay £50+ for a ticket than that is potential revenue/profit for the artist/management.

How would you like it if you were selling a guitar and advertised it in the paper for £50. The buyer comes to see it and says "cool i'll take it, i could get £75 for that easily". Dont you think you'd want to change your mind and re-advertise it the next day for £75? The point is, if there's someone out there willing to pay £75 for your guitar, you should be the one to get that.

I'm sorry, but whatever way you put it, buying tickets with the intent to sell them on straight away is just a horrible practice.

If you follow this idea though then all shop's and most businesses are scamming factory's and manufacturers as they sell the good for more than they paid the factory.

 

[Kristoph]

Then grab a bunch of mates make them pay for booze and petrol and drag them there

Good thinking. I have a few people here who'd come along

 

[iviv]

Its simple economics. Buy low, sell high. Don't blame the touts, they aren't doing anything wrong. Blame the organisers by making them transferable.
I pre-ordered a Wii, but a couple of days before it was released, I checked on ebay and saw how much they were going for. thought 'stuff that' and stuck mine on there, doubled my money. People out there wanted it more than me. Simple as.

 

[Kristoph]

It's not cool taking advantage of the desperate though... look at how people lambast companies that lend to desperate people at extortionate rates, etc.

Thats life.

I've made my mind up now, gnna buy 5 tickets + my own ticket.

Sell them at face value on ebay, let the buyers decide what they want to pay for them.

 

[Gackt]

Of course you should do it. Anyone who says they wouldn't for "moral" reasons is either

(a) Lying.
Or
(b) Has too much money.

Or
(c) Is not a scummy individual.

 

[weringo]

Or
(c) Is not a scummy individual.

No.

 

[Kristoph]

Way to go!

Sure, rubbish stuff happens, but just giving up and saying, "that's life"? What an optimistic outlook. :\

I'm honestly not going to lose a lot of sleep over it.

 

[stoofa]

Oh I so love threads like this.
In fact - I think I may in fact save it.
Reason?
Because all those people who are saying "Yes - go for it" - I'd love to see your opinion when a concert comes up that you really want to go to.
Something that you'd really like to go and see but alas find is sold out and the only way you can go is to pay nearly double to some complete scum of the earth who isn't a fan and has simply done what he's done to rip money off people.

"I won't change my opinion" will be the call - yer sure.
Of course maybe there are people here who never go out to concerts - don't like to watch live music, don't like to watch a good comedian.
Apparently such people exist.
So for you, imagine something that you really enjoy, something you really want.
Now imagine that there is only a finite number of these things for sale and unfortunately they are now all gone.
Now see that somebody else will sell you one for double the price, they don't want this thing but they are going to make you, the one who really wants it pay.
Still all good fun is it?

Ticket touting should be made illegal - simple as that.
There is only one reason why so far it hasn't been - because by making the whole idea illegal, honest people could get stuck with tickets they can't use.
Maybe somebody would fall ill, realise an event clash and due to anti-touting laws would find they couldn't pass the tickets on.
So for that reason the doors are left open - doesn't actually mean anyone should exploit them.

I personally rate ticket touts along side other "victimless crime" people - software pirates, shoplifters etc on the social scale.
Although not actually stealing I just feel they have the same moral values.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Pointless thread, you already knew the answer before posting, you don't need us to give you a pad on the back before going ahead with it. I think touts are scum but would that change your mind? Probably not.

 

[Pookie Bear]

Personally, I think touts and people who buy tickets primarily to sell on for profit are *****. Lots of naughty words you could hide under those asterisks and most of them apply. Everybody gets burnt at one point or another and I'm sure you'll have your turn - but since others would do it if you don't, go ahead, lower yourself to their level - if other people are acting like scum, let's all join in. /runs off and spits on old people in the streets

 

[divine`]

Because all those people who are saying "Yes - go for it" - I'd love to see your opinion when a concert comes up that you really want to go to.
Something that you'd really like to go and see but alas find is sold out and the only way you can go is to pay nearly double to some complete scum of the earth who isn't a fan and has simply done what he's done to rip money off people.

I'd think;

"Damn, if I really wanted to see that concert, I should have got my act together and found out when the tickets went on sale and bought some then, or arranged for someone to buy them for me if I was really too busy to log onto a website for 5 minutes and buy some."

If I was in a situation whereby I couldn't possible have got a ticket at original time of sale i'd think;

"Damn, lucky that guy bought a load to sell, he might be making a profit but at least i've now got a chance to buy a ticket because they'd probably have sold out anyway regardless"

 

[Raymond Lin]

I'd think;

"Damn, if I really wanted to see that concert, I should have got my act together and found out when the tickets went on sale and bought some then, or arranged for someone to buy them for me if I was really too busy to log onto a website for 5 minutes and buy some."

If I was in a situation whereby I couldn't possible have got a ticket at original time of sale i'd think;

"Damn, lucky that guy bought a load to sell, he might be making a profit but at least i've now got a chance to buy a ticket because they'd probably have sold out anyway regardless"

Have you ever thought that it's sold out because of touts?

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

If you don't do it someone else will =/

imo

 

[Kristoph]

Yep, touts sell out every concert.

 

[Vonhelmet]

No.

Ad hominem much?

I wouldn't do it. I'm not lying, and I'm not very well off at all.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Did you know shops like Tesco buy stuff and sell it on for a profit

The difference being that they source things from all over the place and sell it conveniently in one place, etc, etc.

The analogy to touting would be my buying all the, say, soap in the country and then demanding that you all pay me £10 a bar.

 

[divine`]

Have you ever thought that it's sold out because of touts?

If it's sold out because of touts, chances are they'd only be buying because it would popular enough to make money from, correct?

If it was that popular, then chances are it would sell out anyway, touts or not.

Touting can't work on something that isn't popular and near guaranteed to sell out because there wouldn't be the demand for the tickets!!

 

[syke]

Made a fair bit of cash on some tickets for Rugby, as we have New Zealand passports we got 4 tickets for each of the all blacks games, france, england, wales etc and then realised we couldnt go to wales or france for the games, ended up making close to £660 profit, and we started the auction at £10.

 

[Gackt]

If it's sold out because of touts, chances are they'd only be buying because it would popular enough to make money from, correct?

If it was that popular, then chances are it would sell out anyway, touts or not.

Touting can't work on something that isn't popular and near guaranteed to sell out because there wouldn't be the demand for the tickets!!

Even so, if there was no touting, people would still be paying the normal price of the ticket, not some hiked up price.