Time for a new disto poll?

Oxy said:
Arch Linux
BSD Derivative (FreeBSD, PC-BSD etc.)
CentOS
Crunchbang
Debian
Fedora
Gentoo
Mandriva
MEPIS
Mint
OpenSUSE
OTHER
PCLinuxOS
Puppy
Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Sabayon
Slackware
SUSE Linux Enterprise (Server or Desktop)
OpenSolaris
Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, NBR)


Happy now? 20/21 did it matter? ;)
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Max Poll options is probably set to 20 in the Admin CP, which I assume he doesn't have access to increase, tha is why there can only be 20. :)

TrUz
 
Ubuntu will hold the newbies or for people who cba to do anything to the desktop except insert the DVD.

Why does volume of users = win?

If thats the case outside of server world linux may as well stop production.
 
Oxy said:
Ubuntu will hold the newbies or for people who cba to do anything to the desktop except insert the DVD.

Why does volume of users = win?

If thats the case outside of server world linux may as well stop production.
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I am far from a Linux n00b and I use Ubuntu. It's a great distro - direct your hate elsewhere TBH :p
 
Oxy said:
I don't hate the people who use it, I simply prefer distro's that apply the KISS principle. Ubuntu has drifted away from this and changes a lot of stuff, making it hard to fix if it breaks.
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The problem is that there's quite a gulf between the more 'pure' distros (Slackware, Arch, Gentoo etc.) and Ubuntu, Fedora etc. It's mainly usability - installing Ubuntu is simples for a n00b, Slackware isn't. People aren't interested in creating and assigning partitions, they just want the software to work.

Other than automation for installation and having sudo instead of proper root, what exactly has Ubuntu changed to make it harder to fix?

There is a lot to be said for learning a more pure distro once you're comfortable though. It's rewarding when you manage to achieve something, but frustrating when you can't! ;)
 
They have fiddled with Gnome a lot and moved and changed stuff.

Ubuntu really isn't for me, I run Arch on my server, but for desktop use I am really loving OS X now. I might not be a linux boy, aside from my arch server for much longer!
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Other than automation for installation and having sudo instead of proper root, what exactly has Ubuntu changed to make it harder to fix?
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Ubuntu apply loads of patches to programs and the kernel to add automation and easy detection of hardware etc. They also add lots of eye candy that can cause problems, for example they have always been on the forefront of fancy boot screens. Therefore when something goes wrong it is harder to tell if it is bacause a patch isn't playing right with the kernel or it is actually a fault of the user/hardware. This then cascades when new patches are added which makes other programs need patches and it just turns into a big mess, then when bug reporting nobody knows if it is a program fault or an ubuntu fault and it takes ages to get anything back upstream to the program developers. I'll stop now.

/rant over
 
To be frank though, i've never had anything serious go wrong with any Linux distro... especially not to the extent that you have to go looking for it in that way.

Besides, if ever anything does go wrong then just back up your data and packages and reinstall! :p
 
I do like Ubuntu but what does annoy me is having ALL programs update only if it is an X.X.X release. I can understand it for the lower-level stuff but doing it on such things as Firefox and OpenOffice is just silly.

This makes Arch's rolling release system very interesting...
 
Oxy said:
Ubuntu will hold the newbies or for people who cba to do anything to the desktop except insert the DVD.

Why does volume of users = win?

If thats the case outside of server world linux may as well stop production.
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hm

Im am RHCE and run ubuntu at home!. kinda disagree :)
 
There's nothing wrong Ubuntu.

I use debian in a server environment running Xen4 with multiple virtual machines in a routed network and a rather complicated iptables setup on the dom0.

Although not the hardest thing in the world to accomplish, it takes a bit more than just inserting a CD ;)
 
Dunks said:
There's nothing wrong Ubuntu.

I use debian in a server environment running Xen4 with multiple virtual machines in a routed network and a rather complicated iptables setup on the dom0.

Although not the hardest thing in the world to accomplish, it takes a bit more than just inserting a CD ;)
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Debian isn't ubuntu. What point are you making?
 
Oxy said:
Debian isn't ubuntu. What point are you making?
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I know it isn't.

That's the point.


You said Ubuntu will only hold newbies attention. I'd say I'm more than a 'linux newbie' but yet I still use Ubuntu full time on my desktop PC.
 
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