Time for an upgrade?

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So I've decided against making the jump to 4k gaming for now, the outlay is just more than I can afford.

Okay so I'm currently rocking a Predator X34 Ultrawide Gsync monitor at 100hz. I have a 3930k running at stock (I don't get overclocking at all) on a Asus x79 Sabertooth motherboard, 16gb's of Samsung Green DDR3 a Palit 1070ti and a 500gb 960 evo.



I've noticed is finally starting to struggle with newer AAA games, Assassins Creed Origins is giving me an average 56fps with high settings, Far Cry 5 I'm getting 57fps, and so on and so on. Origins in particular turns into a slide show when things get busy. I haven't even tried Odyssey yet and I'm thinking this is just a sign of things to come. To be fair the core system is going on 7 years old now.

I want a significant bump in my gaming performance, obtaining that magic 60fps minimum in AAA titles with as much ultra settings as possible. I do intent on getting an ultra wide 144hz monitor in the future though.

I have a total budget of £2k but any savings here would be helpful as I also need to buy a new phone and want a Note 9, I'll hopefully be able to resell my GPU, CPU etc to offset the cost somewhat though.

So guys, what do you think?
 
Turning those off actually lowered my results, only by 1 or 2 frames but still. How do I go about determining the bottleneck?
 
56 would be fine it stayed around that but when it hits 11 and games turn into a slide show it gets pretty annoying.
 
Dont have a second monitor I can use, was looking at msi after burner after doing a little research last night.

My cpu cores are running between roughly 60 and 80% not sure what my gpu was but it wasn't 100%.
 
I'll double check later and put up the results.

Ultimately though I will be wanting to upgrade my cpu, ram and mobo anyway for something more modern.
 
So finally got on my pc to run that GPU and CPU test with msi afterburner while running the Assassins Creed Origins benchmark and GPU is hitting between 96% and 99%. CPU is running between 36% and 77%.

What I've noticed today, without turning the AA etc back on the benchmark was extremely choppy, lowest FPS showed as 1. There's definitely something going on.

@orbitalwalsh sorry to bring you into this pal but you seem to be the go to guy here and haven't given me duff advice yet. Do you think something else is going on or is should I purchase some upgrades? If so what would you recommend?
 
Thanks @orbitalwalsh

I've got the bios set for performance, can't see any auto overclock functionality unless you're referring to that. I have no idea what I'm doing with overclocking, it just doesn't click with me when I try reading guides etc.

I do have the 280mm be quiet aio paired with high speed silent wings 3's.

I have Windows set to performance and nvidia control panel set to maximum power. I don't seem to have much running in the background, just avg, steam and a vpn that I can see other than the usual. If you can recommend anything to double check that would be great.

Its the lowest frames as you say that's killing it for me, 57 average isn't bad I guess its when it tanks below 15 repeatedly that I get frustrated.

A 1080ti should be easy to get on members market. Anything else you recommend?
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £834.74 (includes shipping: £19.80)
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As per my other thread with the pump on its way out, its spared me to action earlier than intended, I was literally waiting to see what Black Friday deals came up but I'm not risking my system going down. So I've just pulled the trigger on the above!

I've gone with the 360mm AIO this time purely because a replacement 280mm Be Quiet AIO was out of stock, besides another fan and more surface area can't hurt right? Paired with the Silent Wings 3's again and it should be beastly!

Once I get the warranty repair or replacement back it will help off set the cost along with the two now redundant 140mm Silent Wing 3's on the members market.

The 1070ti will also be hitting the members market in the very near future. As I couldn't resist getting that 1080ti with 13% off especially as its got some pretty good reviews and I haven't heard a bad word about Gigabytes customer service. I should have just waited and got one instead of getting the 1070ti as a stop gap card.

May have to wait till December for the rest but I'll hopefully get that 9900k bundle soon and get even more out of my new bits!

@orbitalwalsh and the others who've offered advice, I'm really looking forward to pulling things apart and doing the rebuild :D!!!!!
 
I've got the Darkbase 900 pro in white which has 3 140mm silent wings 3's pre installed. I maybe able to add an extra one to the front where the drive bay covers are as theyre honeycombed but don't have a dust filter so am a little apprehensive as my house is dusty. Wish be quiet did a full front dust filter as I don't use optical drives.
 
Ordered the 9900k bundle now as well and the missus hasn't killed me... Beast mode activated!

@orbitalwalsh any pro tips for the rebuild? Fan configs etc?

Also I've never changed so much hardware on an existing system before, will I need to do a fresh install of Windows 10 for all the drivers and stuff?
 
Guess I could actuall, maybe both in the bottom depending on psu cables.

Would you recommend a fresh Windows install or should it be okay? Only thing I'm really unsure about.
 
Which fan header should I connect the 12v pump to? I remember seeing something that said not the cpu fan header but the manual doesn't say.

I've got the new AORUS master board.
 
@orbitalwalsh Well I'm up and running without to many issues, I made a newb mistake and installed the cooler without removing the peel off protector lol, I raged at the back plate for the cooler, what's the point of having adhesive pads to hold it in place if the slightest bit of pressure makes it fall off? Also my cable management skills leave a lot to be desired but I'm thinking I may order some custom cables.


I'm now getting an error message when I log in "turbo v help access violation" which from a quick google seems to be something to do with AI Suite, however for some reason it doesn't seem to want to uninstall as I get the "The model does not support this application" error. Not sure how to get rid of it to be honest.

I've been into bios and activated the xmp profile for my ram, set my pump fan header to full speed. Finding the Gigabyte bios a little counter intuitive but I'm going to flash it tomorrow and see if it improves. Is there anything else you can think of I need to be doing? It's been a while since I've done this.
 
Wish I'd saved my results on the old hardware for Cinebench but without doing anything I scored a 1811 on the cpu, thats a good 600 to 700 points ahead of the 3930k

Realbench score is 118,400 with a maximum cpu temp of 59c, idling around 32c which considering the 9900k runs hot I'm pretty chuffed with as it's cooler than my 3930k I believe.

All in all I'm really chuffed and I haven't even gamed yet, that RGB ram looks epic and surprisingly tasteful, while I'm sure I'll be bugging these forums and you in particular some more, all I can say is thank you for the advice etc! I owe you a beer.
 
Here you go mate, sorry they're not particularly great pictures only have my potato phone.

Not overclocked yet but went to use the auto tune software last night and got a bsod lol, something I'll no doubt pick your brain about soon.






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Never mind, I found it. I've enabled it in the bios and run Realbench again my system score has now hit 167,894 with a max temp of 55c
 
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