Time wasting and general poophousery

keithcun said:
Ironically, they lost the game at Anfield in the 6th or 7th minute of 'time wasting' time.
One of the recent tactics we see now is defending players going down in the box holding their head, knowing full well the ref will stop the game and in most cases the opposition attack, the ref will run over, check on him, he'll rub his head, get up and then play on from a drop ball that's took out all the sting and pressure from the attack. If it happens, then the ref should immediately call on the physio (because it's a head 'injury') before he gets to the player and subsequently, after 'treatment' the player will leave the pitch and wait to be called back on, let's see if being a man down for an attack cuts it out.
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Yeah this is disgusting and happening a lot now. Sometimes, very occasionally, they do legit have an actual minor knock to the head which yes, may have hurt a bit. Still, they should not be stopping the game to go over only for the player to be getting straight up again within seconds.

The head injury exploitation is a real problem because even if they added back on the time wasted, it's the impact of halting attacks and specific periods of play. If they adopted a rugby style approach where the ref can signal medical people onto the pitch during actual play this could lead to problems though with medical staff tactically running on deliberately to interfere with play. So I don't think there is an easy solution to this one other than to take the risk and ignore the head injuries on the basis that 99% of them are minor and the player is fine. Unfortunately in the world we live in now where health and safety is top priority, that will never happen. The underlying issue with the majority of these things is sportsmanship and the attitudes of players that want to win at any cost. I see more sportsmanship during local Sunday league matches that get rough. At least they honestly punch each other in the heads.
 
dannyjo22 said:
My son’s U14’s were playing on Saturday and losing 2-1. I completely missed it because I was not paying enough attention, but the opposing managers son was playing in goal and whenever he got the ball he shouted out ‘Pickford’. The keeper would then roll around on the floor with the ball. The Ref thankfully had enough and added on 3 minutes and warned the coach. My son’s team equalised and the ref blew, tbh I think he was going to play until we scored.

All hell broke loose then but to their assistant managers credit he said they got what they deserved as they do it often.

It’s depressing that the cheating filters down to even crap level U14 football.
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Same here. My lad is under 14s and played last weekend against a very good keeper technically, but he was a PITA the whole game making it all about him. The team utilized the fact he's developed early and massive and the tactic was to kick it from his area into ours every time. They were a terrible "football" side, but beat us easily just from this tactic. He was constantly doing the thing where he encouraged our players to have to run up to him with his hands just around the ball but not touching, then at the last minute would pick it up and dive onto the ground and lay there for 5-10 seconds. My son was playing striker and getting annoyed by it but kept his head. Then our centre mid had to chase one down and was frustrated so left some in on the keeper flooring him and the ball rolled into the net. lol. Got disallowed of course.
 
It is interesting how stuff filters down even subconsciously. My son is much younger and not really playing organised competitive games yet but he has football coaching after school, and diving / exaggerating contact plus complaining to the ref is a thing even at primary school level (even my son is guilty occasionally), even without it being coached.

In my day if someone went down too easy everyone just said "Klinsmann!" and played on.
 
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I'm a Villa fan and clearly we're some of the worst in the league for this sort of thing and I absolutely despise it on every level. The common refrain from Villa fans is that it's fair game and everyone does it, but we absolutely take the ****. If you're going to charge me £50-60 a ticket then I want at least 70 minutes of active play.
 
jaybee said:
The team utilized the fact he's developed early and massive and the tactic was to kick it from his area into ours every time.
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This has always been the case and as far as I know we have been trying (and quite successfully) to move away from that sort of footbal. I remember playing against kids at the age of about 14 who were about a foot taller than me and back then there was no such thing as a foul unless you were absolutely murdered. All teams prioritised the lads who hit puberty earlier because they were faster, stronger and could just absolutely wreck you. Especially when your keeper was 5' and your goal was nearly full size.

Used to love playing football but that killed it for me. That was why we had so many 'av it players in english football at that time. We kicked the crap out of small technical players until they gave up and all that was left was the bigger oafs.
 
ArcticHeron said:
I'm a Villa fan and clearly we're some of the worst in the league for this sort of thing and I absolutely despise it on every level. The common refrain from Villa fans is that it's fair game and everyone does it, but we absolutely take the ****. If you're going to charge me £50-60 a ticket then I want at least 70 minutes of active play.
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Feel the same way as a toon fan tbh.

I know why we do it as underdogs, but it boils my **** when we continue to do it against teams we should be beating. I hope it gets removed from our game as the calibre of players brought in gets better.
 
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