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Caporegime
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Tipping etiquette
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I don't tip. I don't get bonuses on top of my wages.
I did used to give the mechanic I'd used for about 20 years a bit extra if whatever car I had at the time was due a service at Xmas. He'd helped me with various bits over the years so an extra tenner was nothing.
I did used to give the mechanic I'd used for about 20 years a bit extra if whatever car I had at the time was due a service at Xmas. He'd helped me with various bits over the years so an extra tenner was nothing.
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I only really tip my hairdresser.
Was at a bar the other night, asked for a beer, the guy hands me the card machine asking if I'd like to tip. I'm paying £5.60 for a can of Red Stripe, it took you 5 seconds to get it out of a fridge and press the correct button on the till...
It's annoyingly becoming more and more prevalent. Pub down the road from me has the same thing, £6+ for a pint and every time you go to pay it pops up asking if you'd like to leave a % tip. Do one.
It's annoyingly becoming more and more prevalent. Pub down the road from me has the same thing, £6+ for a pint and every time you go to pay it pops up asking if you'd like to leave a % tip. Do one.
I tend to tip but there are limits.
Taxi's if the driver puts his foot down/drives normally, I don't mind. However, when they dawdle to play the meter - jog on.
Buying a pint in a pub only to be presented with a card reader survey - no. I just see it as a trap to trip you up when you've had a few. When I tip bar staff, I usually offer to buy a drink, and leave it at that. Going out when covid lockdowns were easing and table service was the only option was brilliant.
Local takeaways, not every time - tipping they remember you, so never delayed on delivery or collection.
Restaurants I tip unless the service is poor.
Taxi's if the driver puts his foot down/drives normally, I don't mind. However, when they dawdle to play the meter - jog on.
Buying a pint in a pub only to be presented with a card reader survey - no. I just see it as a trap to trip you up when you've had a few. When I tip bar staff, I usually offer to buy a drink, and leave it at that. Going out when covid lockdowns were easing and table service was the only option was brilliant.
Local takeaways, not every time - tipping they remember you, so never delayed on delivery or collection.
Restaurants I tip unless the service is poor.
That's assuming that the server gets the tip. Which they might or might not do. Especially if it's automatically added on by the business because then you're paying the business, not the server.
Ancient Romans sometimes tipped slaves. Everyone else got paid for their work. I think that sums up tipping very well.
This is the thing. How do we know the business is going to give the server the tips they collect? They might keep some of it for themselves and the servers might never know.
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Can you explain why tipping for a spreadsheet is more bizarre than tipping for a meal? Aside from convention.
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I guess if the person set a date for delivery and provided it much quicker and/or had more functionality than you asked for then you could tip them as a way of showing appreciation.
Tipping waiting staff is just more common as it happens 1000s of times everyday I guess.
Tipping waiting staff is just more common as it happens 1000s of times everyday I guess.
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Currently the business can keep all of it and not care whether the servers know or not. Unless you're handing cash to the server, you're giving free money to the business. Your gift to the business is the property of the business. Even if you do hand cash to the server, their terms of employment might require them to give it to the business.
There are plans to change the law some time next year, probably. But even if that does happen, there won't be a requirement for the business to give the money to the person you might have thought you were tipping. Only to people employed by the business.
I very very rarely tip. well... does keep the change count?
When applied to the service industry, lets not forget that most of these jobs are low paid, low skill jobs, there is a thing called minimum wage/living wage in the UK. They are paid in accordance. People should be living within their means, If that job cant fulfill the means that they wish for, put in the work and effort to find a means of employment that can.
********! Absolutely not expected these days! Never has been and we should resist any push for this to become the norm. Some places try their luck to push this into being a thing, Always question the "gratuity" if its on the bill, If I feel the service has been well above and beyond or we go out in a large group and the server has to put up with a lot of hassle then I may feel inclined to compensate the effort or inconvenience, however as a general rule absolutely not. Its very much not a normality in the UK. Providing the standard level of service ie "doing your job" or doing what you have been contracted to do dosnt deserve a supplementary reward. If you go above and beyond even that dosnt hold a guarantee of reward. The customer has contracted what both parties perceive as fair for the services. The contractor shouldnt expect to receive any more than the originally agreed price. If they want more money, charge more initially and deliver a higher standard of end product.
When applied to the service industry, lets not forget that most of these jobs are low paid, low skill jobs, there is a thing called minimum wage/living wage in the UK. They are paid in accordance. People should be living within their means, If that job cant fulfill the means that they wish for, put in the work and effort to find a means of employment that can.
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Pretty much the same here (barbershop). For taxis, I'll pay £7 if it's e.g. £6.70 or a tenner if it's £9.50 etc if it's cash only.
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Your stylist, for clarity. Not the salon owner.
Gig economy is associated with tipping, rightly or wrongly.
I remember 15 years ago in NYC having a $100 lunch and being hacked off at this snooty waitress who'd looked down her nose at us and then presented us with the bill, at the bottom for the service charge it says:
Good 15%
Great 18%
Excellent 20%
...and she's drawn a ring round the 20%. She's literally deciding for us how good we thought her service was. $20 worth of service my arse.
By contrast, I had much more natural and engaging service getting breakfast in Dunkin' Donuts where the total bill was maybe $11 or something, They got like a 40% tip.
Yeah the percentage calc is ********. If I pay twice as much for a meal that doesn't make the service twice as good.
I remember 15 years ago in NYC having a $100 lunch and being hacked off at this snooty waitress who'd looked down her nose at us and then presented us with the bill, at the bottom for the service charge it says:
Good 15%
Great 18%
Excellent 20%
...and she's drawn a ring round the 20%. She's literally deciding for us how good we thought her service was. $20 worth of service my arse.
By contrast, I had much more natural and engaging service getting breakfast in Dunkin' Donuts where the total bill was maybe $11 or something, They got like a 40% tip.
Junior doctors aren't fishing around for single hours of work though. It would be like the equivalent of a zero hours contract and being bank staff, but without getting bank staff rates and instead on a prorata equivalent of NHS wages.
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No she's not. Her circling something isn't a contract or something you must agree with.
40% of $11 is quite unrelated to $20 for service, btw..
Can you not see the obvious contradiction here, you claim it's not expected and yet you also acknowledge that some places even automatically add it to the bill... which would be because it is expected no?
In some restaurants, they will state up front on the menu that there is a service charge of say 12.5% or whatever so you'll know before ordering that it is expected.
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no but it is pretty rude and presumptuous and if I had felt she had already been snooty to me on top would have made 100% certain there was zero chance of seeing 20% had it been me. I may not be Mr pink but I admit I am not a huge tipper and I doubt I would ever go above 10% unless incredibly impressed.
I can't stand this. I'd very likely leave a restaurant if I saw that on the menu. They're already charging for the food, it's not my fault they can't/don't pay their staff enough without adding on an automatic "service charge"
