This tipping just made me think about tipping in the US where it's the norm, slightly off topic but why doesn't the UK adopt the water at every restaurant table like they do in the US in almost every place and continuly refill your glass.
-
Notice regarding image hosts and attachments. See here.
Tips at restaurants
- Thread starter Monkeymatt
- Start date
Permabanned
- Joined
- 23 Apr 2014
- Posts
- 23,553
- Location
- Hertfordshire
I like to tip in restaurants if I get good service. Just annoying when they automatically include a service charge, like the Italian last night automatically included 10% on the bill. Meal was nice and the service was good so I couldn't be bothered arguing about it so just paid and left but not really the point.
Lol I have noticed that. I can't think of a single taxi driver I've had that hasn't berated a race or religion whilst I've been in their car.
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 5 Jun 2003
- Posts
- 92,069
- Location
- Falling...
Exemplary service? If so I tip. If not I don't.
Simples.
Like bonuses at work - you achieve a high rating on your objectives you get a bonus. If you do the bare minimum you get nothing.
Simples.
Like bonuses at work - you achieve a high rating on your objectives you get a bonus. If you do the bare minimum you get nothing.
in any case though isn't it.
Tell me how your tip will improve your meal or service.
unless you tell them "be good and ill give you a big tip at the end" they generally will just work exactly as they always do which for some will be good for others will be crap.
can you think of any other job where you demand a bribe to not be bad at your job?
ill tip a taxi driver if i say i'm in a hurry and he drive like a nutter on speed.
and we don't die of course.
I'm even more generous than you, I tip people who wouldn't even ordinarily expect a tip. "That was a really great clean and polish Mr Dentist, have an extra tenner"
I gave the guy doing my MOT £20 because I turned up late and he squeezed it in (also let me off a duff bulb. Definitly worked before I left).
When I was working in clubs I used to serve the people that tipped first
. I'm great with faces but crap with names.
When I was working in clubs I used to serve the people that tipped first
. I'm great with faces but crap with names.When I was working in clubs I used to serve the people that tipped first
see that's when tipping makes sense when you're a regular or at a busy bar where your basically bribing them for preferential service over other people.
Thats such a narrow minded argument. I'll tell you what how about I don't pay my taxes this year. How will effect you if I don't.
Look at the bigger picture.
If everyone gave a tip when they got good service then the quality of the service everyone gets would increase.
What?? Have you EVER been told by waiting on staff that unless you tip them later they'llbe crap.
But to answer your question many many many employees do just the bare minimum to get by. Just look at the "do you stay late at work" thread.
What actually happens in the real world is when you do more than the bare minimum then you'll generally get a pay rise the next year. This won't really happen in for waiting on staff
hows is that even a sane argument?
thats like refusing to pay the bill, not the tip. a tipping argument would be like why don't you give an extra 10% of your tax bill to the tax man this year after all if you tip them the government might do a better job eh?
except it doesn't, because then it would just be expected.
much like a customer expecting staff to do the job they're paid for.
Your argument is that they only do anything more than a bad job because of tips so thats your argument that they need bribing to not be bad at their job.
refusing to work for free is not doing the "bare minimum" is my employer doing the "bare minimum" because they don't pay me extra money for nothing at random?
not really, for the vast majority of employees in the country pay raises are negotiated on a group level by unions not an individual/personal level.
Last edited:
didn't see a question mark...
nope, did work a 37.5 hour week for just over £4 an hour for a year though, so i could get a better job.
didn't expect to be tipped to make up my wage though.
.most states have their own higher minimum wage
That's a bit of a naive comment to be honest.
Most people who have a regular carer who they know by name will be probably give them gifts if they can, especially at the end of the year and occasions like Christmas. Yes, it might not be a cash gift, but it's still a reward for your hard work.
On a similar note, has anyone here ever asked for the 'optional service charge' to be removed from their bill? That goes down well.
Yes, if the service is so bad that it doesn't warrant it. I had a meal for 12 once where the service was a joke, they got orders wrong, forgot dishes, forgot cutlery, food came at different times, some items were cold etc. We all paid our split shares including the added charge. I then spotted the Manager and said we weren't happy about the service and wouldn't have paid the charge. He then got the full tip amount out of the till and gave it back to us.
You are well within your rights in the UK to do so, if its bad. At a tourist trap restaurant in Barcelona though where I had a similar issue, they were going to call the police if we didn't pay!
Soldato
- Joined
- 3 Oct 2009
- Posts
- 19,896
- Location
- Wales
Waiters/servers/bar staff should be giving good service as standard. They should be a representation of the business and so "tip worthy" service should be the norm, not something I should be expected to pay extra on top for.
There are places here that get paid exactly the same I do for the same hours so no, I won't tip, I don't get tipped so why should I? No amount of bending over will get me a tip, even if I go out of my own personal way and time to help someone.