TITAN

[humbug]

Can you provide proof that they are working on 20nm? I am not fussed either way and would prefer you to be right and me wrong. I just read an article that had TSMC working on 20nm and that was for Apple.

I wouldn't claim to know either way and was saying it would be nice for AMD to confirm.

Given that 20nm is what TSMC are rolling out logic would suggest it is the next step, given also that (and I think it was you who posted this) Nvidia claimed Maxwell (20nm) would yield ~2x the performance of the GTX 680.

I said at the time "I believe it when I see it" I now do believe it given that 28nm to 20nm yields ~2x the space for shader processor count.

Which incidentally is exactly what the leaked HD 9970 specifications are http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18512085

2048 SP's vs 4096..... ect....

While there is no real reason to suggest these leaked specifications are real, equally there is no reason to suggest they are not, and with Nvidia's bold claims of ~2x I would suggest there may well be some truth in them.

Also-

GTX 480 vs GTX 580 + 15% (40nm)
GTX 580 vs GTX 680 + 60% (28nm)
GTX 680 vs GTX 780 + 25% (28nm) May
GTX 680 vs GTX 880 + 80% (20nm) Feb?

5870 vs 6970 + 15% (40nm)
6970 vs 7970 + 80% (28nm)
7970 vs 8970 + 15% (28nm) June ??????
7970 vs 9970 + 80% (20nm) Nov / Dec / Jan? Last year, a report revealed that AMD’s Volcanic Islands series would be the first to make use of a 20nm process and would arrive sometime in 2014. However, in a recent interview with AMD’s Jim Keller and Chekib Akrout, Rage3d has revealed that the Volcanic Islands GPUs would launch in 2013.


My advice simply is: if you can wait its probably a good idea that you do.

 

[Gregster]

I don't think he was interested in advice and was just asking "What is the fastest single core GPU available".

As for 20nm, I hope you are right but this wasn't the thread for that discussion

 

[spoffle]

I don't think he was interested in advice and was just asking "What is the fastest single core GPU available".

As for 20nm, I hope you are right but this wasn't the thread for that discussion

He didn't, he asked if the Titan gave hands down the best performance.

The single core part has been added in by yourself.

So we don't actually know whether he means that or not yet until he clarifies it further.

So to actually answer the OP's question as it was asked, no the Titan doesn't hands down give the very best performance.

 

[James J]

He didn't, he asked if the Titan gave hands down the best performance.

The single core part has been added in by yourself.

So we don't actually know whether he means that or not yet until he clarifies it further.

So to actually answer the OP's question as it was asked, no the Titan doesn't hands down give the very best performance.

It does in terms of game compatibility, thermal design and acoustics compared to any of the dual gpu designs available. Not to mention the fact that its input lag is also the lowest on the market at this level of graphics performance.

 

[Gregster]

He didn't, he asked if the Titan gave hands down the best performance.

The single core part has been added in by yourself.

So we don't actually know whether he means that or not yet until he clarifies it further.

So to actually answer the OP's question as it was asked, no the Titan doesn't hands down give the very best performance.

Yep sorry. I was wrong again Thanks for correcting me. What is the best performance card on the market?

 

[ArchAndroid]

Yep sorry. I was wrong again Thanks for correcting me. What is the best performance card on the market?

It depends on how you define 'performance'. My estimates would be:

7950 - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

Power Consumption:

(More thumbs up = better power consumption for given performance)

7950 XFire - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

1/2 Power Consumption:

690/7990 - Price:

(+

for 7990 if you sell the games) Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

1/2 Power Consumption:

(+

for 690)

Titan - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

Power Consumption:

My explanation, the Titan sits in the dual-GPU pricing tier while it lacks their performance. The dual GPUs aren't aggressively priced considering 7970 or 680 multiGPU are cheaper. 7950 or Titan pretty much won't care what game you throw at them; they will work. The dual GPU cards are more hit and miss. I can't rate noise as it depends on whether you go reference or not. Ultimate performance is relative to the cards I rated; 7950 isn't a low performing card at all but compared to these higher options it is.

 

[James J]

I think you got "ultimate performance" confused with "price/performance ratio"...

 

[Gregster]

I can see you put a lot of time into that Archandroid and it looks nice but ultimately flawed sorry. Good work though

 

[LtMatt]

It depends on how you define 'performance'. My estimates would be:

7950 - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

Power Consumption:

(More thumbs up = better power consumption for given performance)

7950 XFire - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

1/2 Power Consumption:

690/7990 - Price:

(+

for 7990 if you sell the games) Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

1/2 Power Consumption:

(+

for 690)

Titan - Price:

Ultimate Performance:

Stability/Game Compatibility:

Power Consumption:

My explanation, the Titan sits in the dual-GPU pricing tier while it lacks their performance. The dual GPUs aren't aggressively priced considering 7970 or 680 multiGPU are cheaper. 7950 or Titan pretty much won't care what game you throw at them; they will work. The dual GPU cards are more hit and miss. I can't rate noise as it depends on whether you go reference or not. Ultimate performance is relative to the cards I rated; 7950 isn't a low performing card at all but compared to these higher options it is.

Lol that is brilliant. 5 stars for effort.

Think you might be missing a few thumbs from the titan and ultimate performance though.

I give your post

out of

 

[ArchAndroid]

Thanks guys. I put 'ultimate performance' as what is the maximum performance available in a single card: 690/7990. Relative to this 7950CF is a step down; Titan is another step down and 7950 is one more step down.

Ultimate Performance in my sense means: relative to 690/7990 - the ultimate single graphics cards - what performance will you achieve. It isn't price/performance ratio becuase if the price of a 7950 halved to £125, the 7950 price/performance would double whereas its performance relative to the best single cards would remain static.

690/7990 > 7950 CF > Titan >> 7950

 

[Something Else]

Just admit you want it all

haha yep.

obviously if I had money to spare id buy a titan or two, but if I could just about afford a Titan I would get 2 7970's instead.

I also want an X79 rig at 5+ghz fully watercooled but I can make do with my 2500k at 4.7

 

[Gregster]

haha yep.

obviously if I had money to spare id buy a titan or two, but if I could just about afford a Titan I would get 2 7970's instead.

I also want an X79 rig at 5+ghz fully watercooled but I can make do with my 2500k at 4.7

That makes good sense to be fair.

I had to go the lowly route for years and years when my 2 girls were born and only now can I afford to throw money at my PC. I had no issue with using mid range or lower components and enjoyed gaming just as much.