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Whether or not this is warranted or not i feel it needs to be said....

to those who are thinking of upgrading their GPU in the next month...don't unless 100% necessary, as the new stuff is coming out.

to those who are deciding on a new build and are unsure which CPU to pick...high clocked dual core good for gaming, quad core good for multitasking.

Do not get DDR3 yet as its not worth the money and is only useful for makign your e-penis bigger, but everyone on here will think you are a tool, so dont bother.

thinking of a generic build and want to know what parts are best for the money....search general hardware its all there, £300/400/500/600/1000 builds...do you really need to ask the question again?


Edit: General doesn't mean waste bandwidth
 
I see what you're doing, but this post won't make a difference, most people barely read stickies, they aren't likely to read this thread.
 
Well imo computers arent progressing or at least the gap between a medium system and a full whack £5000 alienware piece of junk isnt what it used to be.

Mine is about 4 years old albeit the gfx which is about 2 and can run all new games thrown at it. Compare this to say 1999 and 2003 no way I could run 2003 games on a 1999 spec pc.
 
While there is no performance advantage to DDR3, I bought it not for any E-phallus reasons, but because I want this machine to last for as long as poss, if I'd bought DDR2, I'd have to throw it all away in 6 months and buy a whole new mobo/RAM etc....which would mean another CPU and so on because I wouldn't let the old components lie idle in a box.

Make no mistake though, the people who take the p*** out of you this week for havin DDR3, will be pointing and laughing at your DDR2 in 6 months.



This thread is a noble effort, but there's such a serious dose of greppophobia (the fear of computer searches :D ) round here, you may as well wee in the wind.
 
my point is there are 10 threads everyday saying the same thing, most people have real queries, but some just ask a question thats already on page 1.

and ddr3 will become viable in the next year or so, but it is very expensive and offers no real performance gains over very fast ddr2 atm, so if you buy todays ddr3 you are essentially just buying fast ddr2 at twice the price.

edit: and you wouldn't have to throw your old stuff away, you would just buy ddr2 and 3 compatible mobo and use ddr2 now, then when ddr 3 is the same price sell the ddr2 and save a load of cash.
 
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edit: and you wouldn't have to throw your old stuff away, you would just buy ddr2 and 3 compatible mobo and use ddr2 now, then when ddr 3 is the same price sell the ddr2 and save a load of cash.

From what I've read the dual support boards are "jacks of all trades, yet masters of none".
A bit icky all round.

Actually, the biggest penalty I paid was in the motherboard price anyway. Knackering the first board and having to buy another didn't help :eek:

Anyway, I certainly wouldn't reccommend anyone considering DDR3 as a killer upgrade. But if building a whole new box, ground up, as I was, it's worth looking at.

(TBH, I think I bought it in a fit of picque having previously built, 12 months previous, the m2n box in my sig, only to find out there was no upgrade path for it at all)


I know what you were at with the thread.
Still, I'll bet you a fiver that this thread ends up adjacent to "should I buy a 9800 or 8800 right now?" thread, within 48 hours. :D
 
how do your "knacker" you mobo?


It requires only a moment of total and abject stupidity.

Board was on it's way back to OC for being, well frankly, mental. In a haze of tramadol (sort of entry level morphine :D ) and out-of-bed-for-five-mins-syndrome, I put the socket protector on wrong. Brain TOTALLY out of gear, I put it UNDER the CPU gate and bent two pins flat on the socket.

Cretin, I believe is the word.

Built dozens of PC's even some with LGA before, never broke anything. But what a way to start....a 280 quid mobo, destroyed (the pins are FLAT, not .

bent over or anything so fixable).


Best bit is, me GF leant me money for the Gigabyte. I had the CPU in it, and opened the gate to triple check the orientation, and popped upstairs to check AS5 install guide. When I came back down, I didn't realise that opening the gate had lifted the chip out of it's recess. I tilted the board to check that the piece of electrical tape I was using to hold the fan backplat in place until the screns went in wasn't going to fail on me.....and the cpu slid out. I was holding the chipset sink, so got a thumb on it before it went anywhere. BUT, the reailing edge caught one pin on the inside edge of the array and hooked it up

Was actually in tears.

In the end I put the chip on gently and seen that it straightened it a bit. Closing the gate straightened it more. And it's running fine with a TT120 squishing it up.


Cannot believe it ever really happened, it's like a nightmare.
 
While there is no performance advantage to DDR3, I bought it not for any E-phallus reasons, but because I want this machine to last for as long as poss, if I'd bought DDR2, I'd have to throw it all away in 6 months and buy a whole new mobo/RAM etc....which would mean another CPU and so on because I wouldn't let the old components lie idle in a box.

Make no mistake though, the people who take the p*** out of you this week for havin DDR3, will be pointing and laughing at your DDR2 in 6 months.

Yes becuase they waited and got their DDR3 RAM for 1/4 the price you paid with much better specs than your early gen DDR3 ;)
 
Whether or not this is warranted or not i feel it needs to be said....

to those who are thinking of upgrading their GPU in the next month...don't unless 100% necessary, as the new stuff is coming out.

to those who are deciding on a new build and are unsure which CPU to pick...high clocked dual core good for gaming, quad core good for multitasking.

Do not get DDR3 yet as its not worth the money and is only useful for makign your e-penis bigger, but everyone on here will think you are a tool, so dont bother.

thinking of a generic build and want to know what parts are best for the money....search general hardware its all there, £300/400/500/600/1000 builds...do you really need to ask the question again?


Edit: General doesn't mean waste bandwidth

Good luck with this, and I agree with you. The problem is quite a few people don't know how to think for themselves and are lazy. The amount of 'which monitor' threads is just stupid.
 
There is no reason to upgrade don't see any games on the horizon that will be struggling on 8800 + cards.
 
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