Tomorrow....

I was under the impression that, synchro issues aside, the stock ITR 'box is pretty strong? People are running superchargers/turbos with them...
 
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I agree K20A would be very nice indeed, but from what I can find, the engine alone is ~£2200, not including a 'box. So add the box on to that, and then getting the whole shebang fitted, it'll be past the cost of a built B20 would it not?
 
merlin said:
...minus the cost of breaking your B20.
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This is true. By the looks of it there's nothing mechanically wrong with my engine, it's just a bad combination of parts. So yeah, it's got to be worth something in parts....

Hmm, damn you both to hell, you've got me thinking on another tangent now :o

/EDIT There's the cost of the ECU and obligitory K-Pro to add to that. Although, I could make a bit back from the S300 to offset that a bit..
 
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Theres a good thread on itr-dc2 about the K20 upgrade. Looks like a lot of work but you would get good results. Due to the platform you already have, the B20 route makes more sense though.
 
Yeah I saw that thread, it does look like a lot of work, but it is also pretty straight forward becuase you can buy mounts and special hybrid wiring looms ready made for the job, it's all pretty much plug and play stuff, if I go down that route I am seriously considering DIYing it.
 
Right, lets lay it on the table. After consulting with she who holds the purse strings ( ;) ), I reckon I'll have about £4k to play with. So, options are:

- Properly built high-comp B20.
- Forced Induction.
- K20 conversion (is it doable for £4k?)

I don't know what to do :(
 
Aside from the cost issue - the K20 is the better engine. 230/240bhp comes along quite easily with practically zero stress on the engine.

Plus higher revs + shorter ratios = more :D

On my old DC5 the engine produced 158lbft from 4250rpm to 8850rpm. That's some tasty power band.

Come to sell this car in 2 or 3 years I think you'll shift it quicker and for more money with a K20 inside. That's bordering on investment talk btw, unleash it on your woman wait 5 mins for it to soak in then sit back and admire the results. Get your money back you say? Investment you say? ;)
 
Merlin, you're a genius.

Ben, unfortunately I'm in no position to comment on the above as I clearly don't have a clue when it comes to any thing mechanical. But you saw what Merlins DC5 could do... that alone should persuade you one way or the other! He knows his stuff :D
 
I wouldn't boost a B20 block, no where near as robust as the DOHC head designated blocks and you dont get oil squirters for your pistons.

TBH getting what you have running well with a change to CR and better selected cams will yield more than enough for good road use. K20 is a lot of money, if your gonna do that get rid of the Teg and K20 an elise :D

Mikey on Honda E is sticking a K23 in his EK Civic with a S2000 crank, that should prove interesting :eek:
 
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Right, lets lay it on the table. After consulting with she who holds the purse strings ( ;) ), I reckon I'll have about £4k to play with. So, options are:

- Properly built high-comp B20.
- Forced Induction.
- K20 conversion (is it doable for £4k?)

I don't know what to do :(
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Costs of each? I have a weird feeling FI might actually be the cheapest, especially if you go turbo.

I think it will be a choice between B20 and FI, the K20 just seems so much money for what you are getting.

EDIT - I just had a we laugh to myself remember you saying you were giving up modding after the rex :)
 
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EDIT - I just had a we laugh to myself remember you saying you were giving up modding after the rex :)
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:o

As for the costs of each, I haven't really sat down and worked it out yet, but basically I want as much RELIABLE power as I can get whilst keeping it to the budget. Reliability is the key word though.

I just spoke to PA and I am picking the car up tomorrow, I might as well have it back whilst I consider my options. Can't fault PA one little bit though, Richy has been massively helpfull and they have charged me much less than I was expecting, especially considering the road mapping and dyno time spent on the car trying to pinpoint the issue, not to mention some other little bits and bobs they have done whilst it was there.

Fantastic service :cool:
 
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