Toning up for summer

nero120 said:
Good for you sonny, but I post where I god damn well please. If you are your chums are too blind to see the obvious thats your problem, but don't dare think you can decide what is post worthy or not, considering on why this issue got started in the first place. This is not exclusively a forum for members of your little club.

Why do you feel the need to ruin this thread completely? Of course you can post where you damn well please tinkerbell, you grasp of freedom is astounding. Make your posts informative and worthwhile though eh. I have decided that the issues that you have bought up are not post worthy, in fact I've decided that your posts are pointless and contain no relevant information to that which anyone has asked for. So I'll say it again as clearly you have problems understanding this, contribute to these threads properly or just leave. This isn't a little club, this is people helping other people train and giving information to help them on their way.

Clearly you need to vent your anger elsewhere, maybe on the motoring forum where i'm sure some huge incident requiring your immediate and clearly effective problem solving techniques are required. Good luck, may the force be with you.

Case Closed.
 
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nero120 said:
Good for you sonny, but I post where I god damn well please. If you are your chums are too blind to see the obvious thats your problem, but don't dare think you can decide what is post worthy or not, considering on why this issue got started in the first place. This is not exclusively a forum for members of your little club.

Oh the irony!! :rolleyes: :D
 
MTA99 said:
So you need to "bulk" to get the muscles then "cut" to get the definition. It is possible to add lean muscle while reducing body fat (or tone using your definition) but it isn't quick or easy!

Therefore those who want to "tone" require a specialised diet and training rountine yet have no motivation to follow it if it requires more than using a few machines in the gym twice a week. Herein lies the issue. Its not snobbish-ness or arrogance, its trying to impress on people who ask for advice that there aren't any shortcuts. Set some targets, do what it takes to achieve your goals then enjoy the results! :D

Here's a question concerning semantics. Does the term "toning up" mean to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time quickly? NOT bulking up and then cutting down over a long period of time (or vice versa or just simply cutting)?

Again, I stress that I am asking about the meaning of the term.
 
Runbalk said:
Here's a question concerning semantics. Does the term "toning up" mean to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time quickly? NOT bulking up and then cutting down over a long period of time (or vice versa or just simply cutting)?

Again, I stress that I am asking about the meaning of the term.

I'll quote myself........

MTA99 said:
Here's a few quote from the thread so far.....

"I don't want to be athletic, or have arms the size of my head, I just want to tone"

"If the guy says he wants to tone up, then he wants to tone up. Whats wrong with that? Is it just that its such a loose term? Surely to the majority of people it means become more muscular?"

"People say "tone" because saying "lose fat" implies they have fat - which they don't like!"

"For me, the word "tone" means to lose body fat so that muscles definition becomes apparent, but to have muscles at a decent enough size so you don't just look like a skinny weakling."

Does the term "toning up" mean to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time quickly? NOT bulking up and then cutting down over a long period of time (or vice versa or just simply cutting)?

You see where i'm going with this. One mans tone is another mans tone :confused: Confused? You should be!! ;)

Your question highlights the problem with the term! :D
 
Ahh ok. In that case, I think that whenever somebody comes on here and says they want to tone up, the response should be to ask what they mean by "tone up" because not everyone seems to have the same definition of the term and then move on from there. Rather than just assume that they are saying they want to magically turn their fat into muscle in the space of a week.
 
Runbalk said:
Ahh ok. In that case, I think that whenever somebody comes on here and says they want to tone up, the response should be to ask what they mean by "tone up" because not everyone seems to have the same definition of the term and then move on from there. Rather than just assume that they are saying they want to magically turn their fat into muscle in the space of a week.

Nail...........head.........BOSH! :D
 
platypus said:
What if one's diet requires masses of carbs, is it then impossible to get a six pack?

I honestly don't know. I am kind of naturally lean like that, my family are very mesomorphic and I find it quite easy to put on / lose weight. As long as I am doing moderate physical activity and not eating too much filth I tend not to carry much fat on me, same with my brothers and cousins.

You would be better asking on the t-nation forums to be honest, there are loads of experts there who can help you out :)
 
nero120 said:
Sorry I hurt your feelings, I guess I underestimated the emotional stability of some of the "regulars" in here...

blame the roids!!! ROID RAGE RAAAAHHHHh :D:D
 
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