I noticed the Prodrive exhaust and asked if it had the full PPP power pack. They said yes, there is a certificate saying so in amongst the paperwork somewhere.
Took a "Blobeye" Impreza STI PPP out today
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0-* figures are irrelevant as this is down to the 4WD system.
Even when you put the results out like that, its not like these are massive differences, yet I'm told I'm being ridiculous for thinking the ST was faster
Even when you put the results out like that, its not like these are massive differences, yet I'm told I'm being ridiculous for thinking the ST was faster
When we're talking about small fractions of a second in gear between the ST and the PPP STi, then I don't really see it being 'considerably behind' - the only way that it is going to be considerably behind is if it was from a standing start.
Yeah when its top end there is normally no replacement for displacement. I found that quite shocking with the EVO, it will pull to 160 relatively easily, which for a 2.0l is damn impressive, so turbo clearly helps.
Still give me a V8 though.
This is contradictory, as the ST has a 2.5L engine.
The difference is almost certainly down to the Turbo - the ST when tuned does not hold that extra boost that well for lengths of time, so at higher speeds/longer gears boost tails off.
I do apologise, I didn't read your post properly, Gibbo.
Merlin, that was exactly my point with the boost tailing off.
Merlin, that was exactly my point with the boost tailing off.
It felt slow (well, not as quick as the ST and I'm talking acceleration, not actual speed) because I'm used to my ST delivering a huge wall of torque at 3000-3500RPM. I'm pretty sure I already explained this.
Yes, we've established this, but why do you keep saying it? This isn't a willy waving exercise.
I never knew people would be so offended by me not liking a Subaru.
I was referring more to people like Fox, who will dismiss something purely because it doesn't sound right.
Either way, given that the PPP cars rarely make 300bhp, and will make even less on 95RON (lets say 275bhp for arguments sake) that is around the same figure that my car makes, but with higher transmission losses plus my car has more torque - I do not think it unreasonable that my car at least feels faster, do you? This was my point, I just didn't appreciate the ridicule for something that wasn't that ridiculous.
Either way, given that the PPP cars rarely make 300bhp, and will make even less on 95RON (lets say 275bhp for arguments sake) that is around the same figure that my car makes, but with higher transmission losses plus my car has more torque - I do not think it unreasonable that my car at least feels faster, do you? This was my point, I just didn't appreciate the ridicule for something that wasn't that ridiculous.
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Take it back you didn't like it and we'll probably forgive you.
It isn't so much that I didn't like it, I just think I was expecting more from it.
[TW]Fox;17601218 said:
New car delayed by a few days.
Who says there is a buyer?
[TW]Fox;17601439 said:Oh Mike, you really do walk into this all the time dont you
Where had it gone then, for a walk? Somebody pinched it? You quite obviously meant you'd sold it. You never disputed ANY of the subsequent replies from people expressing suprise you had sold it either, so thats obviously what you meant had happened
Perhaps you missed the post just half hour later, on the same page;
MikeHiow said:
Well there is no buyer to be accommodating as you say, if I'm trading it in with the same dealer that has delayed my new car, is there.
The ST pretty much is gone. At the time, a price had been agreed, I had approved the new car, and I was set to hand the ST over the very next morning.
The ST pretty much is gone. At the time, a price had been agreed, I had approved the new car, and I was set to hand the ST over the very next morning.
Actually,I didn't do too bad. I got guide price for my ST, which I was happy with and the dealer pulled most of their margin out of the new car (I know how that sounds, but no, really - benefit of 20 years of family buying from a large chain that can pull a car from another branch at cost).
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Ok. You're wrong though. Apart from the bit about Mikehiow not being able to drive it properly
This has intrigued me, I'm considering trying a classic RA to see if I can be converted. I'm a firm believer of trying anything once.
I don't like Fords, I like good cars - I've never subscribed to manufacturer loyalty. I wasn't keen on the MY05 Impreza, but it was more than it wasn't as good as I thought it was than out right not liking it. Its also horses for courses, I'm told something like an RA will be more raw and focussed, and being a weekend/occasional use car it doesn't need to be refined.
I'm only going to try it, if I don't like it I can sell up and buy something I do like - I just want to give it a chance longer term.
I'm only going to try it, if I don't like it I can sell up and buy something I do like - I just want to give it a chance longer term.
Edd, I want the RA specifically for the gearbox (and DCCD) It'll probably never be used for long trips. AFAIK, they did a WRX and STi RA, the STi being the one with DCCD?
Search for sale sites, view a few and then buy one?
It'll probably never be used for long trips. AFAIK, they did a WRX and STi RA, the STi being the one with DCCD?[FNG]magnolia said:
Search for sale sites, view a few and then buy one?
I'm listening to people.
It isn't just people here.