Torn Between Unifi Security Gateway Router and UBIQUITI EdgeRouter X 5

Could just buy a USG-Pro4. Yeah it's expensive(er than a USG3) but you'll get more than 100Mb speed (250Mb with all the toys enabled).

I won't get involved in the clash of the titans above but maybe an option if you have your heart set on the USG but didn't want the **** poor performance?
 
Could just buy a USG-Pro4. Yeah it's expensive(er than a USG3) but you'll get more than 100Mb speed (250Mb with all the toys enabled).

I won't get involved in the clash of the titans above but maybe an option if you have your heart set on the USG but didn't want the **** poor performance?

And that's the biggest issue. 3 times the money and all you get is an extra LAN port you can't really use and the ability to run IPS/IDS at up to 350mbps.
 
And that's the biggest issue. 3 times the money and all you get is an extra LAN port you can't really use and the ability to run IPS/IDS at up to 350mbps.
I don't advocate either the USG or an Untangle box (and you know that :D). It does however solve the OP issue of wanting a USG with better performance.
 
While we can certainly agree to disagree, I decided to play this out for 5 years and see what it looked like, it may cast a slightly different light on the comparison for anyone considering doing something similar.

A number of Chinese providers offer low power hardware that is marketed for this sort of job, relative to untangles own hardware it’s not that different, security/warranty/support aside. You’ll blow north of £300 on them quite easily for something reasonably modern with AES-NI and enough grunt to do the job, multiple intel NIC’s and a reasonable amount of RAM/storage. Let’s assume 25w load running a reasonable set of services, for me 25w/hr is roughly £30/yr inc VAT (renewable sources). I would suggest if you are willing to throw £300 on hardware up front, you’re more likely to try and get the full UTM experience and that’s another $50 or £41.80/yr for the home licence, and $25/£20.90 for AV based on what went through my account yesterday for something else. 5yr TCO looks like this:

Hardware + Power + Free licence £450 (£90/yr Av.)
Above + Home licence £659 (£131.80/yr Av.)
Above + AV £763.50 (£152.70/yr Av.)

A USG is going to run you £100, power will be roughly half of the PC and zero ongoing licence cost. 5yr TCO is £175 (£35/yr Av.)

You could skew the numbers by buying used hardware for untangle, but the usual trade off is power usage increases. You can also claim residual value in the hardware, I have low power residual hardware form 5 yrs ago, it’s not really worth selling at this stage.

No dispute that Untangle has vastly more functionality and capabilities than a USG, it’s a fully fledged L7 UTM with L2/3 stuff bolted on, running on x64 hardware, it’s more like comparing an electric scooter to a Tesla. We all know what we’d like to own, but if your commute is 3 miles through narrow congested streets in rush hour traffic, one makes more sense. The USG does however offer coherent management of other Unifi based products and fits the op’s stated needs (op - still wait for the refresh).

I get why you personally don’t get along with Ubiquiti kit, but this isn’t your ‘spec me a router’ thread, so what specifically that op has posted suggests that they want or would see a significant advantage in spending a minimum of £275 extra over 5 years and potentially up to £588.50? I must have missed something surely?
 
I’m not sure why you’re pushing a dead duck so hard but please let me assure you, I’m not anti-UBNT. I’m a certified Ubiquiti trainer and I hold all the current Ubiquiti certifications.

I refuse to blindly suggest that someone throws money away on a platform that isn’t being developed anymore but feel free if you really think that’s the right thing to do.
 
Ubiquiti drop support for a platform? Well that’ll be a first :p

The point i’m pushing isn’t that the current USG/Ubiquiti are amazing, I clearly said wait for the refresh - though if I could get one for £50 as someone did, then on an ‘average’ FTTC line with the right usage scenario, it’d certainly be considered - it’s that you’re pushing an option that is likely to be £300-600+ more expensive over 5 years (£/$ isn’t getting significantly better over that term, power costs and fuel duty/taxes are likely to go up), doesn’t do what the op actually wants and offers little to no benefit to op based on what they have described. They’ve been using an ASUS product for years, anything has to be better at this stage (irony: Untangle released a custom firmware for the AC88u). Nothing wrong with a curve ball, if op was asking about building an x86/64 based router and content filtering/blocking etc. then Untangle should be discussed, but surely you can see it’s not really a good fit in this thread for this op at that price?

To paraphrase someone who normally speaks a lot of sense: I refuse to blindly suggest that someone throws £450-763.50 away on a platform that fails to meet the stated needs and offers no relevant benefits, but feel free if you really think that’s the right thing to do.
 
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