Toyo Proxes question

Guybrush · 7 Sep 2006 at 12:36

What is the difference between the T1-R and the T1-S? Which is better?

TinkerBell · 7 Sep 2006 at 12:44

The -R has a harder sidewall I believe.

TripleT · 7 Sep 2006 at 12:45

T1-R's replaced T1-S's so I can only assume that they're better... They're the newer model if you wish just like Goodyear F1 GS-D2 / GS-D3

Though I might be wrong

Goody_GTI · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:00

T1-s's were always a realy good performer in the wet but were probably let down in comparison to their competitors in the dry, whereas the T1-r's handle much better in the dry whilst maintaining their awesome handling in the wet

im preety sure thats the main difference

Siliconslave · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:07

the R apparently stands for re-enforced, and in the sidewalls, and are allot stiffer, the S is pretty much as grippy but doesn't feel nearly as sure footed as the R in my experience

Firestar_3x · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:07

What about wet performance Sam?

Cyber-Mav · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:12

goody_106 said:
T1-s's were always a realy good performer in the wet but were probably let down in comparison to their competitors in the dry, whereas the T1-r's handle much better in the dry whilst maintaining their awesome handling in the wet

im preety sure thats the main difference

that is correct as stated on the toyo website.

im currently using t1-s's and when they need chainging i will get the t1-r's since they are the cheapest budget tyre i can find.

my t1-s cost me £35 inc vat and fitting. size: 195/50/15

Psymonkee · 7 Sep 2006 at 13:27

I just got some 195/55/15's fitted to my Leon (T1-R's that is

) - still bedding in so far but I'll give you guys my opinions later :>

Berger · 7 Sep 2006 at 14:19

Changed the tread pattern. Toyo UK site says.

The Proxes T1-R boasts a special performance compound and tread pattern which gives incredible road holding in all conditions, especially in the wet. The V-shaped grooves in the tread pump water away allowing the rubber to grip the road.

These are bounded by circumferential grooves which allow the Proxes T1-R to give you even better wet grip whilst being quieter and longer lasting as well.

T1-R

T1-S

Jonnycoupe · 7 Sep 2006 at 15:01

I've used T1R's on my car.

Bit to squirmy under load and take feel and response away from *** steering but they are pretty good in all conditions if a little soft in terms of wear.

If your running 15" get some Yoko Parada Spec 2, they now do them in 195/50 for £40 or so :cool:

J1nxy · 7 Sep 2006 at 15:54

The T1-S I used as 205/55/16 and 215/35/18 on my old Scooby and had mega grip in wet or dry. Never tried the T1-R but would be happy to get the S again.

Steve

Bigsy · 7 Sep 2006 at 16:36

I agree with Jonnycoupe, I have a brand new pair sitting on alloys in the shed, probably won't use them, they just didn't feel quite right on my car at all.

Probably as they were paired with a stiff set of pots on the front which made the rear a bit wobbly.... still I wouldn't fancy T1Rs all round, so will probably get a whole new set of Parada Spec 2's when the time comes.