Didn't read my full post did you? I get your point about it being a different proposition though.
Pioneer, really? An Exige can hold 4 adults comfortably? It has a large boot? It's not as quick?
Toyota GT86 - One year review.
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Didn't read my full post did you? I get your point about it being a different proposition though.
Pioneer, really? An Exige can hold 4 adults comfortably? It has a large boot? It's not as quick?
Not a problem.Fair commentI read as far as 'My Evo 8 FQ-300 does everything better than the GT86' and thought errrr..........
Apologies.
Anyway, back to the GT86.
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The question for me is, what does the GT86 offer that the 200sx s14 and s15 didn't 10-20 years ago?
The answer is very little besides beinga production model currently.
In a couple of yearsI'll wanta second car and it's more likely to be an s15 or MR2 turbo than a GT86.
The answer is very little besides beinga production model currently.
In a couple of yearsI'll wanta second car and it's more likely to be an s15 or MR2 turbo than a GT86.
Mod cons, modern styling, and a warranty.
You could use that argument for a lot of cars to be fair.
But this isn't a second car. It's my primary car. So being current production is actually pretty high on my priority list and counts for a hell of a lot. I wanted a fun car, but also wanted a "new" car with all the benefits that provides. It may not be as quick/capable as the cars you mention, but I'd wager I have just as much fun in it as in those. And fun isn't really a quantifiable thing.
A nicer interior, less worries about mechanical faults and general tiredness. The biggest one though is no worry about rust which you'll likely find on all but one 200sx.
They lifted the clock for the GT86 from a MR2 mk3, they started production in the year 2000. Hardly modern and it shows.
I think picking at the clock as a proof of dated styling is a bit much! Especially in a sports car.... Such things are waaaay down the list of priorities. There is a clock, it tells the time.... What more does one need in a car like this?
Bang for buck though, I recall there being far better options - even more justified when you consider the cost of the 'optional' mods that you'll most likely want to perform on the vehicle to get it *just right*.
But i'm not the typical owner - i'll shy away from spending additional money on a vehicle to modify it, and save up that cash to buy an OEM faster car that suits me better (and use finance too
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But i'm not the typical owner - i'll shy away from spending additional money on a vehicle to modify it, and save up that cash to buy an OEM faster car that suits me better (and use finance too
).I personally don't think they're that expensive - we're all effectively used to hot hatches and the like, where the series production "normal" models subsidise the majority of the R&D cost and the hot model is therefore cheaper. When you compare it with the Mazda MX-5, at a list price of about £22k as a similar spec, though slower and less practical (though of course with the benefit of a folding hard top) it looks much better value. BRZ is available for under £21k new ATM.
There's a gorgeous one of these in Plymouth with 80's style riveted arches and is apparently blown, it went past me on the A38 with a nice "psht". People getting bogged down worrying about them being "under powered" should remember the AE86. Twenty years time kids will be paying thousands for these.
Nice review
Nice review
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There's a gorgeous one of these in Plymouth with 80's style riveted arches and is apparently blown, it went past me on the A38 with a nice "psht". People getting bogged down worrying about them being "under powered" should remember the AE86. Twenty years time kids will be paying thousands for these.
Nice review
Not sure that's exactly right. Remember the ae86 only weighslike 998kg..
Was browsing some mods this morning. They claimlike 17whp from a intake manifold spacer mod (increases runner length) only about £300 or so forthe kitand30 minute bolt on install.
if i had a gt86 id get the perrin intake and the spacer!
I've owned a GT86 for four months and it really is a genius little thing.
The attention to every detail of the driving experience really shines through whenever you get into it. The driving position, interior trim, the balance of handling.
I owned an ae111 and it's uncanny how similar it is in some respects.
I also don't know of any other car that has been made that has been a mesh of 2 manufacturers and executed so well. The exterior styling is very Toyota and the engine is obviously a Subaru product.
A unique proposition in every way. It took me 4 months to finally get it.
The attention to every detail of the driving experience really shines through whenever you get into it. The driving position, interior trim, the balance of handling.
I owned an ae111 and it's uncanny how similar it is in some respects.
I also don't know of any other car that has been made that has been a mesh of 2 manufacturers and executed so well. The exterior styling is very Toyota and the engine is obviously a Subaru product.
A unique proposition in every way. It took me 4 months to finally get it.
S2000 costs a lot more to run and many are reaching the point where a lot of work is needed on them now. Also not as usable as an every day car. The GT86 has a reasonable boot, "back seats" and more equipment.
Anyway, the driving position in the GT86 is one of the best I've experienced and it handles like a way more expensive sports car. It's surprisingly comfortable as well. The only issue I have is the gear shift can be a bit stiff, especially when cold.
Anyway, the driving position in the GT86 is one of the best I've experienced and it handles like a way more expensive sports car. It's surprisingly comfortable as well. The only issue I have is the gear shift can be a bit stiff, especially when cold.
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I'd argue the opposite, of the biggest running cost, depreciation - one is depreciating the other isn't.
Sure if you need a 'back seat' but the Honda is more focused, has a better engine, amazing gearbox and that extra 40hp. Sure the GT86 is newer but I'm not sure about Hondas 'needing a lot of work'?