Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)
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UK economy beats expectations with November growth
The economy grew by 0.1% in November, partly boosted by World Cup fans spending more in pubs and restaurants.
www.bbc.co.uk
That's a surprise too.
Why surprised though? UK market is dirt cheap compared to most around the world, there is only so far it can fall.
FTSE 100 the perpetual underperformer. Last 10 years massive bull run and it returns nothing. Total return inc dividends is quite poor in my eyes and its full of planet killing companies.
I've done very well thanks, this post was regarding my vuke purchase
Very good but the chart speaks for itself.
This is why I'm UK focused. I went in a bit to early and took some of the falls. But last 3 months have been good.
The opening of China should also help boost the market
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www.reuters.com
Is the bottom already in?
China's rapid reopening brings joy and woe for world markets
The rapid reopening of China's economy from COVID lockdowns is brightening the outlook for global investors keen to leave behind one of their worst years on record, but may also fuel the inflationary pressures policymakers hope are abating.
www.reuters.com
Is the bottom already in?
The opening of China should also help boost the market
China's rapid reopening brings joy and woe for world markets
The rapid reopening of China's economy from COVID lockdowns is brightening the outlook for global investors keen to leave behind one of their worst years on record, but may also fuel the inflationary pressures policymakers hope are abating.
Is the bottom already in?
Personally I think the bottom has potential passed.
But this year is fragile. But I don't think falls will be beyond the bottom that's just passed.
For example I don't expect my persimmon shares to drop materially below 1200 where I bought.
Obviously this is completely personal
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Im currently sat on a bit of cash I want to invest, been waiting thinking worse is to come, but just recently Im wondering if the worst if over. I think I might trickle a bit in, long term Im sure it will be positive, may just mean I miss or have missed the true dip.
I've trickled a grand back in over the last few months, depends what you have and where it would be better placed rather than in shares, if its literally slush money and you wouldn't really be effected if it all went to zero then why not, T212 does some nice pies or you can build your own to spread it around a bit..
I'd put a bit in a bond and a bit in stocks.
Probably 25:75.
Well. That's what I did anyway!
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Has any kind of dip really kicked in yet? We are still waiting to see the impact of the increase cost of living, increase mortgage interest rates, and early finish of the energy price caps etc. All of these things have a lag, also not to forget that credit card spending is on the up as well.
All of the big ticket items wont start hurting truely until people end fixed periods and stop getting so much support with energy, all of which is going to be coming over the next month or two. Personally i think we are yet to see the worst of things!
All of the big ticket items wont start hurting truely until people end fixed periods and stop getting so much support with energy, all of which is going to be coming over the next month or two. Personally i think we are yet to see the worst of things!
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Also remember markets are looking at future. And much of the recession effect will be priced in.
If things go as expected the bottom is probably now. To actually get in on the dips you have to believe that the current flow of news and results are going to improve before that comes apparent.
Very much so.
Its a gamble I'm willing to take as unless it's really bad it won't get much worse. But it could get a lot better.
I'm also picking up on similar murmurings. That things won't be quite as bad.
I mean 10 year mortgages are now better than 2. Rates are dropping. I know its not a the be of metrics but its a positive that not many middle earners will be stung by ridiculous loan/mortgage rates4
I actually regret (a bit) putting as much as I did in a 3 year fix. Even though I think it was a good rate, I think better rates would be had in stocks. Even though it is good to be diversified.
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I haven't been out of the market for over a year now, been putting dividends back into VUKE , my personal rate of return is forecast to be 40% if it Carries on (yeah right) but keeping up with inflation plus a little extra will be fine
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@thebandit you could do this. Bonds are very much more stable than stocks in general. If you wanted to hedge against any potential further downturn, I would buy in some bonds, and then with stocks. Take the 75% and buy in each month a % of that. This would allow you liquidity to buy more and reduce your entry cost if it dips further. Or, yolo the **** in and think nothing more of it. It's long term **** anyway, so **** it.
