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ajstan said:
Bummer, I was just about to stick £1k in Lloyds, so I guess I now can't?

Sorry if this is an obvious question, I'm confused :p
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There is an exchange open, BATS and maybe PLUS I dont know. Problem is not everyone has access, I dont seem to have a quote anywhere right now because the prices would be wonky mostly and it would be buyer beware.


I think you could buy lloyds shares still even with no exchanges but you'd need to record the sale with a lawyer, find the seller yourself, etc
Lots of private companies out there, big ones even (aston martin, McLaren?) and I believe they do deal shares dragons den style.

I think they might laugh if you mention 1k though, anything less then 10k and you are nothing pretty much is the rule.
Brokers always sound like totally up themselves filled with disdain that they have to speak to the little people whenever I discuss my tiny deals over a phone.
Like I just asked them why my coffee holder on the front of my pc just broke :p

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/top_track_100/article4229344.ece
 
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I've just been doing it through HSBC - super easy that way :)

silversurfer said:
I think they might laugh if you mention 1k though, anything less then 10k and you are nothing pretty much is the rule.
Brokers always sound like totally up themselves filled with disdain that they have to speak to the little people whenever I discuss my tiny deals over a phone.
Like I just asked them why my coffee holder on the front of my pc just broke :p
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Yh just petty cash to them I guess :p

I was just really puzzled why lloyds shares dropped down, I expected to see them at around 70p today
 
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ajstan said:
I've just been doing it through HSBC - super easy that way :)



Yh just petty cash to them I guess :p

I was just really puzzled why lloyds shares dropped down, I expected to see them at around 70p today
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Buy on the rumour and sell on the news, probably the best one liner descriptor to share price movements you could have.

They always (over) estimate the future and its usually a disappointment except for apple shares but never cease to amaze apparently :confused:

62 is the start of my scale in for lloyds, I would really like them to fall more. RBS already rose back too much
 
what have people averaged as a return over the years?

I am curious because I dont trade stocks but i play around with the FTSE and some funds.

I have averaged 25% return p.a. what is this like compared to other peoples' returns in this thread?
 
It appears the systems errors experienced today seems to have had a little knock on my portfolio invested with my IFA. I've been watching my PF go up and down over the last 4/5 months and gradually go up overall whilst fluctuating.

Is this something that a lot of people will have been affected by and something that would be recovered from?

Apologies for the n00b questions.
 
Im always learning and its better to do it with small amounts really. The company had a procedure, what they actually did was something completely different.
At least now I know and its no big deal

Really money shouldnt matter. It does have an influence on people though and they panic when its large amounts.
As far as Im concerned its possible to get some experience even with zero amounts. If Ive seen it all happen before then Im less likely to act wrong when the share is as much as 12% of a portfolio

Icap had restricted deals on penny shares all day I saw. Generally the market was much more positive today but it was also less involved which means weakness.
See if it can push through monday or continue down I think is possible

Was a great bounce on GKP friday, been extremely volatile recently

I have averaged 25% return p.a.
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I think Warren Buffet got over 20% for last 50 years or 91,000%
If you average 25 for 10 years that'd be 900% return.
Each month over last year I got :
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Rockhop continues to be unpopular but also very light volume, will add more on tues if possible



Lloyds - Net interest margin of 2% on their lending means profits of 6bn apparently. Sounds ok to me but easily reversed with bad loans like Ireland no doubt -4bn
- http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ll...gin-concerns-weigh-2011-02-25?dist=beforebell
 
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cool- warren buffet is my inspiration.

I am really happy with 25% p.a. over the past 3.5 years. Looking through this thread there are lots of great buys but the risk seems really high. I wanted to check how I compare with people who have been trading individual stocks.
 
I hold funds mostly too, in fact Im 13% in bonds. Im not, either rich enough or brilliant enough to do penny shares that much really. I know nothing about Nicaragua, etc

Im wondering how you managed to 25% in funds especially in these last 3 years. Lots of resource based ones?
If you look at Neptune Japan fund, that guy produced 100% gain in a year pretty much, he shorted everything in 2008. One to watch I reckon.
Most of those guys are boring sheep though. Do you hold them with HL ?


HDY CLF RRL GPX & FPM are my largest small company holdings. Those 5 only add upto about to the same amount I have in Telefonica which is a company 94 times larger then they are in total


I like the idea of having separate accounts. Recycle profits from penny shares and keep rolling it over, eventually if you are good and dont kid yourself or cash out the money it'll be obvious which account does better for you.
 
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silversurfer said:
Im always learning and its better to do it with small amounts really.
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It wasn't the small amounts I was curious about rather - discussing a deal with a broker. They're just salesmen - if they were able to extract alpha from the markets then they'd be on the buy side earning a lot more - they're not though, they're just brokers..... ;)
 
Do you guys tend to stay invested in the market or hold a proportion in cash? For a fair while I was fully invested but having a significant cash holding over this (what i hope is a) market blip has allowed me to dip my toes in the water at a decent price (£5k GKP @ 140) and debating £5k in RKH on Monday though need to do a bit more reading. Might split £2.5k RKH / DES / RRR (2 out of 3....my maths isnt that bad :D ).

At the same time, im always worried that holding cash aint doing anything for my overall return. What are your thoughts?
 
silversurfer said:
I hold funds mostly too, in fact Im 13% in bonds. Im not, either rich enough or brilliant enough to do penny shares that much really. I know nothing about Nicaragua, etc

Im wondering how you managed to 25% in funds especially in these last 3 years. Lots of resource based ones?
If you look at Neptune Japan fund, that guy produced 100% gain in a year pretty much, he shorted everything in 2008. One to watch I reckon.
Most of those guys are boring sheep though. Do you hold them with HL ?


HDY CLF RRL GPX & FPM are my largest small company holdings. Those 5 only add upto about to the same amount I have in Telefonica which is a company 94 times larger then they are in total


I like the idea of having separate accounts. Recycle profits from penny shares and keep rolling it over, eventually if you are good and dont kid yourself or cash out the money it'll be obvious which account does better for you.
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I traded the FTSE 100 actively. I pick a range that I will buy and sell at and stick to rigidly.

The last 3 years have had weekly oscillations that are pretty predictable. So I sell at 1% higher than I buy at and keep doing it. 25 trades a year on a FTSE tracker fund with no trading fees and that is how I got my return.
 
PAz said:
The only plus side is I topped RRL up at a decent price.
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Yeah, tomorrow is payday and decision day for me with my monthly investment...

Do I add to my RRL holding, though it is getting quite pricey now..

Or

Do I pile into a longer term holding such as SOU, XTR

Im leaning towards long term at the moment, but I hate buying outside of an ISA :mad:

Im considering a long term bet instead - no CGT, but Im reading up at the moment having not bothered with spreadbetting before..

City Index or IG Index?

Im looking at minor markets more, rather than the main indexes.
City seem to have a better mobile app, which could be handy..
Just wondering if there was a clear favourite..
 
Lots of movement today but finally decided to topslice on ARM and get my original investment back. Some good gains for them today and still got my profit tied up with them.
 
If my CKSN shares fall today I'll eat my hat. :D

RNS out..


·** Significant performance improvement in 2010:
* Revenue of £2,546m, up 30%; 23% on an underlying basis (2009: £1,961m)
* Trading profit of £252.1m, up 126% (2009: £111.7m)
* Return on sales of 9.9% (2009: 5.7%) - Ceramics 11.9%; Electronics 9.8%
* Headline profit before tax of £222.1m, up 193% (2009: £75.7m) :eek:

:D :D :D :D :D
 
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