Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

Not who you asked but I do similar - I would assume that it's because you can only pay into and benefit from one S&S ISA per year, so it makes sense to use that on HL for all of you larger and longer term holds, and then use a regular non-ISA "invest" account on 212 for more small/medium trading. And as a result on HL you'll be dealing in pretty large amounts that make the trading fees negligible
 
I quite like that plan. Out of interest how come you don't just use Trading 212 for all shares to avoid the £12 fee from HL?

I used HL historically, as it was referred from a friend, I use their monthly deposit into my F&S account so charges are different, think its like £1.50 commission they call it per transaction per month.
I only use 212 because some of the guys at work were using it so I started off then, was only Aug/Sept time so I've only got about £300 in there that I play with, the apps not bad but as a whole them being so slow to react to changes in market prices sucks a bit..
 
Apologies Mods - I thought the no referrals was more in relation to people posting links trying to attract bonus' rather than individuals asking for one specifically, similarly to in other areas of the forum like Huel referrals etc.
 
I didn't say it was his fault. But it's still a responsibility. You can't ignore the reality of the fact that even by mentioning a ticker - and by saying you hold it is in many ways saying you recommend it - could lead someone to make a poor decision. Whether we like it or not, peer recommendations are incredibly powerful - just look at any penny stocks forum. Hell people even pay to receive stock tips and recommendations which are nothing more than one person's opinion.

If you think a billionaire wouldn't care about losing £100k then I don't think you understand how they became a billionaire. Many of the world's richest persons are infamously frugle. Anyway the point isn't the amount - £500, £10k or £100k - the point is that £8 is literally nothing. You may as well be playing with the free money account and everyone should know how differently you act and behave there vs real money.

Tickers get mentioned in here all the time ones much worse than the companies I listed as part of my "fun" portfolio
I did say "small research" "small money" and posted a picture showing how little I "invested" in each one.

if someone decides to stick actual money in one of those companies then I would hope they understand the risks.
especially when I link the article about one of them out bidding itself to by osram with money it can't really afford.
They finally acquire osram but only 59%, they can control the company but need 75% to control it's cashflow to reduce their own debt, which seems to have been the original idea.. (or 75% share holder approval whatever)

They aren't terrible companies they are ones with a true "potential" but risky, much better than some of the tickers you see in here like PHE, I've seen people post known "pump and dumps" too

The majority of my money is mixed in ETFs and companies I would expect to survive a real financial crisis.

damn BP up so much, I actually averaged down on them the other day and then bailed 65% of my shares as soon as they were in profit :(
now I'm up 11% :( I expected them to keep hoovering around 260 for months.
by 2025 I think they want to invest 5bn a year in green energy but currently it's only 500m
probably still oil centric by 2035-2040...
seems like way too slow a transition and put me off the long hold with other green energy companies expected to boom.

surely there's a reason INRG goes up so much and it's not oil
 
Last edited:
Don't see the point in selling in the current climate...just hang on, as coronavirus comes under control this year, it'll come good over time.

Just added some of the Legal & General Battery Value Chain etf (BATG) today.
 
Apologies Mods - I thought the no referrals was more in relation to people posting links trying to attract bonus' rather than individuals asking for one specifically, similarly to in other areas of the forum like Huel referrals etc.
Nope - it's any sort of referral.
 
Top 10 fund in 2020.

NONE of these form any part of a recommendation - simply posting the information.


10. Lord Abbett Innovation Growth USD: 71.5%
Sector: North America

Sector average performance: 16.1%

Managers & Citywire rating: Matthew DeCicco (AAA), Thomas O’Halloran (AAA), Vernon Brice (AA)

The fund was a major beneficiary of the tech rally, with Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Google owner Alphabet in its top five holdings. It also owns Zoom and Tesla.

9. Matthews Asia China Small Companies: 72.2%
Sector: China/Greater China

Sector average performance: 33.4%

Managers & Citywire rating: Winnie Chwang (pictured, A), Andrew Mattock (AA)

The fund topped the sector with a diverse portfolio that includes shipping, glass and pet food companies.

8. MFM Junior Gold: 72.5%
Sector: Specialist

Sector average performance: 6.7%

Managers & Citywire rating: Angelos Damaskos (+)

The fund had a stellar first half of the year, with small cap gold miners rising sharply as demand for the precious surged amid the turmoil of the pandemic.

7. Baillie Gifford Global Discovery: 76.8%
Sector: Global

Sector average performance: 15.3%

Managers & Citywire rating: Douglas Brodie (AAA)

The first of four Baillie Gifford funds in the top 10, close to two thirds of the portfolio was in US equities, with Tesla and Teladoc big winners. UK supermarket delivery firm Ocada was another stock that surged in 2020.

6. Premier Miton UK Smaller Companies: 77.3%
Sector: UK Smaller companies

Sector average performance: 6.5%

Managers & Citywire rating: Gervais Williams (Pictured left, A), Martin Turner (Pictured right, A)

After a difficult period of performance in 2019, the fund rebounded sharply in 2020. Big winners included Jubilee Metals, Trackwise Designs and oil small cap Touchstone Exploration.

5. Guinness Sustainable Energy: 79.3%
Sector: Global

Sector average performance: 15.3%

Managers & Citywire rating: Edward Guinness


Along with tech, environmental stocks were another significant winner in 2020. The fund’s top 10 positions in Vestas Wind Systems, First Solar and Xinyi Solar were big contributors to performance.

4. Baillie Gifford Positive Change: 80.1%
Sector: Global

Sector average performance: 15.3%

Managers & Citywire rating: Kate Fox (Pictured, AAA), Lee Qian (AAA)

The fund profited from a number of stocks that saw their share prices deliver triple digit gains in 2020. Tesla, Moderna and Teladoc are all top 10 holdings.

3. Baillie Gifford Long Term Global Growth Investment: 95.6%
Sector: Global

Sector average performance: 15.3%

Managers & Citywire rating: Tom Slater (Pictured, AAA), Mark Urquhart (AAA)

Like its sister funds, the portfolio’s top 10 read like a who’s who of the best performing stocks in 2020. Tesla, Shopify, Tencent and Amazon all contributed to the fund’s numbers.

2. Morgan Stanley US Growth: 110.4%
Sector: North America

Sector average performance: 16.1%

Managers & Citywire rating: Team managed

The fund’s largest holding, Zoom, rose more than fourfold over the year and became a household name due to its ubiquity during lockdown. Chunky positions in Shopify and Amazon also bolstered returns.

1. Baillie Gifford American: 121.8%
Sector: North America

Sector average performance: 16.1%

Managers & Citywire rating: Kirsty Gibson (Pictured, AAA), Gary Robinson (AAA), Tom Slater (AAA)

It’s no surprise that Baillie Gifford claimed top spot, with the commonality of holdings across the group’s portfolios, resulting in them dominating the top 10. Tesla, Shopify, Zoom, Wayfair and Amazon were among the names propelling the fund to the head of the leaderboard.
 
Call me brave, but I am holding, I feel with how shares in the US get pumped so hard, once it is listed US side it could see further gains, its a gamble for me along with MARA and RIOT to hold out and see where it goes.

Well today has worked out well, especially in the numbers you trade at. Must be tempting to take some out!
 
Great day today.

Is anyone into Bidstack (BIDS)? A video game advertising play on AIM that got massively ramped a few years back and then fell off a cliff. Anyway it's picking up again and IMO it's a potentially massive relatively untapped industry.

Only got a bit of cash in it myself so one I like to hold just to enjoy the ride really
 
Anyone looking at Rolls Royce stock? They're 107p at the moment and have obviously taken an absolute kicking in the last 10 months but optimism from the vaccine might drive them them up. There's rumours they may fall even further due to our further lockdown and American Covid cases rising, but as a medium to long term prospect - they look quite appealing?

Just checked and they have moved up to 111p. Might be a good buy as the RAF are getting some new fleet ie Tempest over the next few years.
 
RR arent going anywhere, I'd recommend to buy them if you're wanting a 5-year hold, they are still making engines, although a substantially reduced amount, they have tenders in with the USAF for a supply/support program for the B52's, there's the thing they are doing with modular nuclear powerplants as well as once people start flying again there is the support that will come with that.
 
Don't see the point in selling in the current climate...just hang on, as coronavirus comes under control this year, it'll come good over time.

Just added some of the Legal & General Battery Value Chain etf (BATG) today.
well at the time I bought BP it was only because of a dip thatI know they would mostly recover from over time.
then I heard they were slowly switching to renewable energy which is great.

but the more I researched it the more I realised for me it wasn't a long hold because there transformation is going to take decades and seems to be more PR than anything.

yea sure It's probably a good run for another 5-10 years, but they are surely going to get left behind stuck in the past with there fossil fumes?

I'd rather have my money in green energy now whilst it seems to be booming and at the start of the trend.

probably going to work better for me long-term than BP would, with BP most I would expect on a loooong hold is to double my money.

new money probably sees it as a dinosaur boomer stock
 
More days like today please :eek:

Was a good one :cool:

Earlier....I thought screw it, I might skim some off and go buy one of those 3090s that were in stock...but apparently I'm not the only one with that idea as they mysteriously all sold out today :D

INRG up 7.3% on the day, it's my largest single holding atm, so happy days.
 
Was a good one :cool:

Earlier....I thought screw it, I might skim some off and go buy one of those 3090s that were in stock...but apparently I'm not the only one with that idea as they mysteriously all sold out today :D

INRG up 7.3% on the day, it's my largest single holding atm, so happy days.

It didn't click that the US election results possibly drove the gains until I saw your earlier post. I was trying to figure out the driver! Oil was obviously up but banking stocks rocketed too.
 
It didn't click that the US election results possibly drove the gains until I saw your earlier post. I was trying to figure out the driver! Oil was obviously up but banking stocks rocketed too.

Not a great day for tech stocks mind, maybe tomorrow ;)

I think it's going to be silly season gains this year, maybe some hiccups if there's any complications with vaccines and their effectiveness....but I plan on filling my boots.
 
Back
Top Bottom