Train burglaries in the US, do we have anything at this scale in the UK?

If the companies using trains gave a **** they'd hire some guards, but if I had to guess it's probably less hassle and cheaper to just deal with insurance claims or angry customers.
 
As for the rife train robbing over there, its just a result of massive capitalistic abuse - what do you expect with a country thats pure capitalist, can't even pay its population a sensible minimum wage & then asks the over worked population to pay through the roof for basic healthcare.

TBH I can't blame them for robbing from the rich - why not ! The mega rich probably don't even notice the loss in money even on this scale.

If the country paid a sensible minimum wage for working say 9-4pm Mon - Thurs, a take home of at least £30000 equivalent, then, you'd solve a lot of issues, as it is, some industries require you tip simply to barely make rent - let alone health care.

Whats the point, its a massive massive con - cheat and steal just as much as the rich do I reckon - they should rob trains! its no where near the criminal level of the billionaires and politicians.

This factual post is possibly too much for a few right wing folks on this forum, they like to think capitalism is just great and may not like reading this, but oh well, truth is sometimes awk.

Really, ANY job, needs to be enough to cover the minimum required costs of living healthy and without fear, so realistically the lowest skilled jobs need to start at 30k minimum - the world is so so so so so so so abused by capitalistic rhetoric - many find that hard to believe or swallow thats really what the lowest paid person NEEDS to get by sensibly - as most jobs are half that or 20k, it goes to show how stitched up the working class are.
 
Werewolf said:
I'm going to hazard a guess that part of the reason it's happening is the relative closeness of those trains to heavily populated areas, and poor security in and around the train yards. IIRC US frieght trains tend to run very very slowly in a lot of areas compared to UK ones due to poor track layouts and maintenance (watching some of the programs about their train network makes me think it's barely been improved since they laid the first tracks).

I'm guessing there is going to be some sort of dispute about whose job it is to provide the security, and it's down to the train operators who are trying to save money, whilst the police won't be interested because it's transport/boring and requires more work than pulling someone over, or jumping on someone who they don't think has a ticket in the station.
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The last tweet dowie added mentions that the trains slow or even stop in that area waiting to get into the station. If the train is 100 containers long, the driver is going to have no idea about anyone breaking into the back 20. Nor would he be able to do anything about it apart from call the police.
 
Malevolence said:
It's California, that state is ******. In San Francisco they've recently 'legalised' shoplifting of anything up to a value of $950 by making it a misdemeanour rather than a felony. Crimes of that nature sky-rocketed and the police can't be arsed to investigate, so the usual suspects are out in force and helping themselves to anything and everything with little to no recourse.
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Wild, just looked it up.

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california
 
Malevolence said:
It's California, that state is ******. In San Francisco they've recently 'legalised' shoplifting of anything up to a value of $950 by making it a misdemeanour rather than a felony. Crimes of that nature sky-rocketed and the police can't be arsed to investigate, so the usual suspects are out in force and helping themselves to anything and everything with little to no recourse.
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I came into this thread expecting it to be burglaries at train yards where they are stealing the actual trains, I am disappointed by the lack of enterprise.
 
what do you expect with a country thats pure capitalist
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One of the largest governments in the world, over 50% of the GDP is government revenue. They got a bad mix of something but its not a capitalist system when so much is centralized
 
silversurfer said:
One of the largest governments in the world, over 50% of the GDP is government revenue. They got a bad mix of something but its not a capitalist system when so much is centralized
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Your more likely to find a trend between people committing these criminal acts with people from single parent or dysfunctional households.
 
Freddie1980 said:
Your more likely to find a trend between people committing these criminal acts with people from single parent or dysfunctional households.
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Do you think trends for single parent or dysfunctional households just happen out of nowhere?

Decent Education and opportunities don't come to people in poverty. Families with money live in affluent areas and near to well funded schools and communities.
 
Hedge said:
Do you think trends for single parent or dysfunctional households just happen out of nowhere?

Decent Education and opportunities don't come to people in poverty. Families with money live in affluent areas and near to well funded schools and communities.
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The issue of single parent households is a whole thread in itself but suffice to say decades of government policy around families eroded the family unit.
Whilst having money does help it's not the be all and end all reason why people are successful or not. Children from strong family units are much more likely to have better educational outcomes and career's then those from broken homes (more so where the father isn't around).

Michael Atherton former England cricket captain wrote a great article for the times saying it's family not private education that's influences England's cricketers.
 
Combat squirrel said:
Unless you're a person of colour, in which case they will lock you up for 10-20 years minimum, add on top of which free slave labour........people of colour locked up for a couple of decades for carrying like 5 grams of pot is rife over there (which isn't a big crime at all they just pretend its serious) and a MASSIVE abuse of human rights - but as it is, the black prison population is the free slave labour that makes the arms industry so cheap over there, they do pay them to get around "laws' but something like 5 pence a day.

The USA needs hauling in front of the world human rights judges tbh !!
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It's weird though because Asian people in America are actually jailed at a lower rate than white people, they make up 5.6% of the US population but only 1.5% of the incarcerated prisoners. So apparently Asian people are more privileged than white people, or you know, they just commit fewer crimes due to cultural and socio economic backgrounds.
 
Roar87 said:
It's weird though because Asian people in America are actually jailed at a lower rate than white people, they make up 5.6% of the US population but only 1.5% of the incarcerated prisoners. So apparently Asian people are more privileged than white people, or you know, they just commit fewer crimes due to cultural and socio economic backgrounds.
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Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read, are you one of those people that think 'all lives matter' as well ?
 
Roar87 said:
It's weird though because Asian people in America are actually jailed at a lower rate than white people, they make up 5.6% of the US population but only 1.5% of the incarcerated prisoners. So apparently Asian people are more privileged than white people, or you know, they just commit fewer crimes due to cultural and socio economic backgrounds.
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Come on Roar, you usually post some decent stuff but you're ignoring a ton of variables in that line of thinking.
 
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