I did some work on both the Pendolinos and the Voyagers a couple of years ago - they are really heavy, solid vehicles. I don't think a Pendolino has ever been in a major derailment anywhere until now so it's good to see how well it took it.
Train Crash in Cumbria.
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I agree that it's not looking too good for Network Rail's maintenance department.
It is unlikely that the dudes at the bottom will get held responsible - more likely that the company will get shafted for something like 'using inappropriately trained staff' under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.
It is unlikely that the dudes at the bottom will get held responsible - more likely that the company will get shafted for something like 'using inappropriately trained staff' under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.
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Obviously depends on what happen, but network rail have been very good at providing training and once people have been trained for them to sign all work off. Making it easy to shift blame down the chain to the bottom.big_white_dog84 said:
AcidHell2 said:
Yeah? Try 30-45k buddy. Take it from me. I work for the biggest contractor of them all. They're on stupid money. Depending on their grade of course. They won't let normal apes do inspection work. Btw. It's either Carrilions or Grant Rail's
job. Grant Rail is on their way out and they know it. Perhaps that's why they "missed" the loose bolts. They probably just don't care anymore too give the appropriate amount of time and care the job needs.
Personally, I don't travel on trains. It's always the points and crossings that bother me. The margin for error is ridiculously small. Too small...
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dbmzk1 said:
Never heard such rubbish in my life.
There is no train, I repeat NO train with any sort of steering device. The handle/ joystick devices you're referring to are simply different ways of controlling the throttle/ brake, depending on precisely who designed the train. There are a few trains (1960's Deutshe Bundesbahn diesel locos spring to mind) which actually have a physical steering wheel, but this is not used for steering, but rather in this case for controlling the brakes.
I agree to a point on how fragile the railway is- By definition, the path which a train can take, and any obstacles that it has to tackle are fixed, and this means that there is actually less toughness required to reach the same level of safety. On the other hand, the railways are certainly one of the safest means of transport via thier sheer predictability.
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Damn, I was waiting for a linkleezer3 said:
Never heard such rubbish in my life.
There is no train, I repeat NO train with any sort of steering device. The handle/ joystick devices you're referring to are simply different ways of controlling the throttle/ brake, depending on precisely who designed the train. There are a few trains (1960's Deutshe Bundesbahn diesel locos spring to mind) which actually have a physical steering wheel, but this is not used for steering, but rather in this case for controlling the brakes.
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