Train Fever -- modern-day Transport Tycoon game
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Trying to figure out how to make passenger trains profitable. Looking at the screenshots below, what am I missing?
Overview Left town closer Right town close up
So I have a bus loop in both to help get passengers to the train stations. You can see on the left town screenshot there are a ton of people driving between the towns but they don't seem to take the bus or train?!
Overview Left town closer Right town close up
So I have a bus loop in both to help get passengers to the train stations. You can see on the left town screenshot there are a ton of people driving between the towns but they don't seem to take the bus or train?!
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Bulldoze the road
that'll get em!Is it because driving is quicker? Can you get another train and make the frequency lower?
Not sure tbh ive never been that successful with passengers
I read someone said that the cities will rebuild the roads, so even that wouldnt be a lasting solution, although maybe it'd help establish your service, it really depends on how the game deals with it, there may be a fundamental reason they arent using it, and the road being replaced will see them return to that mode.
Im not a huge fan of the steam forums, but from the little amount i did read on there (mainly expecting to see a bit of a backlash tbh, which i think might have happened as there were people saying they'd got over the initial issues and are still enjoying it) i did catch someone saying that the location of the train station is essential, but i didnt fully understand what that meant, without screenshots it was hard to tell, as its not like you can knock down their buildings and plant the station right in the center (at least you cant build a depot on them, havent tried demolishing but i doubt you can).
I also started a basic bus service, completely screwed up the placements of the stops so it'd go around the block to get on the right side of the road etc, but i had 1 person get on and thats it. No idea what was wrong, maybe i needed more buses to shorten the time, but i only ever had 1 person wait, its not like they gave up.
Im really going to have to go get OTTD and give that a few hours again, but its going to feel a bit bland in comparison, but its so much more complete and varied. Boats, planes, easily twice as many industries, vehicles, and competition to rival you. It more than makes up for being a much older game.
Im not a huge fan of the steam forums, but from the little amount i did read on there (mainly expecting to see a bit of a backlash tbh, which i think might have happened as there were people saying they'd got over the initial issues and are still enjoying it) i did catch someone saying that the location of the train station is essential, but i didnt fully understand what that meant, without screenshots it was hard to tell, as its not like you can knock down their buildings and plant the station right in the center (at least you cant build a depot on them, havent tried demolishing but i doubt you can).
I also started a basic bus service, completely screwed up the placements of the stops so it'd go around the block to get on the right side of the road etc, but i had 1 person get on and thats it. No idea what was wrong, maybe i needed more buses to shorten the time, but i only ever had 1 person wait, its not like they gave up.
Im really going to have to go get OTTD and give that a few hours again, but its going to feel a bit bland in comparison, but its so much more complete and varied. Boats, planes, easily twice as many industries, vehicles, and competition to rival you. It more than makes up for being a much older game.
I actually did have two trains originally, but that just meant I was losing even more each year. At the time both bus and train lines were all sub 1 minute wait times. Only a couple of passengers were ever waiting at the stations.
After those screenshots I made a bus line between the two towns and made a massive profit. I'm tempted to do what you guys said and just bulldoze the road just as an experiment. However if the passengers are just suppose to use the quickest route to their destination then they must be all driving supercars.
After those screenshots I made a bus line between the two towns and made a massive profit. I'm tempted to do what you guys said and just bulldoze the road just as an experiment. However if the passengers are just suppose to use the quickest route to their destination then they must be all driving supercars.
Wish it had windowed mode
Its does
For someone who hasnt bought this, i feel im spending a little too much time in here already 
Just watched this video, i stumbled upon their 'tycoon news' shortly after going to the OTTD site, and saw they'd don a beta video and figured i'd take a look.
They're playing on easy, so that needs getting out of the way early, but they start in 1950 by doing a 2-track passenger line between 2 towns, with a supplementary bus service to help scoop people up. He definitely struggles for a while (pausing while implementing the routes instead of running them when they're unfinished would help a lot) but in the end he turns it around.
Its tempting me to buy it, but i think i'll hold off for a sale (Jan maybe) and see what comes of updates and fixes, theres a few things i know i'd like to see implemented, competition for business being a big one and probably not easy, but little things like being able to easily replace an old vehicle with a new one, so instead of just 'sell' you have 'replace' too, and you just trade it in for a newer model. Its a silly little thing, but i can imagine the longer you play the more you'll have running and constantly sell -> buy -> add to line etc instead of building. Lifespan should help i guess as the years pass.
But i do love watching these sort of games going about their business, like a model village, im just not ready to pay £20 for something i feel isnt quite finished.
They're playing on easy, so that needs getting out of the way early, but they start in 1950 by doing a 2-track passenger line between 2 towns, with a supplementary bus service to help scoop people up. He definitely struggles for a while (pausing while implementing the routes instead of running them when they're unfinished would help a lot) but in the end he turns it around.
Its tempting me to buy it, but i think i'll hold off for a sale (Jan maybe) and see what comes of updates and fixes, theres a few things i know i'd like to see implemented, competition for business being a big one and probably not easy, but little things like being able to easily replace an old vehicle with a new one, so instead of just 'sell' you have 'replace' too, and you just trade it in for a newer model. Its a silly little thing, but i can imagine the longer you play the more you'll have running and constantly sell -> buy -> add to line etc instead of building. Lifespan should help i guess as the years pass.
But i do love watching these sort of games going about their business, like a model village, im just not ready to pay £20 for something i feel isnt quite finished.
It does? Where?
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I'm very tempted by this as well, £20 doesn't seem too bad either. I think I will wait a bit for the kinks to be worked out though.
in the settings
Technical
iirc it was either above or below the list of resolutions, and you can simply resize the window to what you want and it works fine.
or its the first resolution in the list :whistles:
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So I made the road route less desirable and while it did get the train used more, it didn't make huge difference. You can see the before and after here.
So I then destroyed the road route, and while the train still wasn't profitable the number of passengers has been gradually increasing. It only had one carriage so unsurprisingly 20 odd passengers wasn't enough to make the line worth it. It's now running 66 passengers and getting 300-400k profit.
Considering I was getting more profit with my bus system between towns, you need some seriously long trains to make it worth it and it takes a long time to build up the demand to get that many people waiting at the stations.
(ps I'm running the train and carriages with the lowest running cost too)
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Grabbed this yesterday from kinguin, only about £13, bit cheaper than steam.
Managed to get two town nicely linked up, making a good profit, bus routes in town all earning a profit, just having trouble getting the freight trains and goods trucks to make a profit, steel mill takes so long to produce...
Managed to get two town nicely linked up, making a good profit, bus routes in town all earning a profit, just having trouble getting the freight trains and goods trucks to make a profit, steel mill takes so long to produce...
Would be interested in how your bus lines look if you fancy sharing a screenshot? My major profits are in shifting goods, inner town bus systems I can't get profitable.