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Triple monitors but only 1x580gtx , help please! :)

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I had a moment of madness yesterday and ordered 2 more 120hz LCD's so i'll have 3 all matching. Its just occured to me that i need dual cards to plug 3 monitors in.. :o

It appears that i am going to have to buy 2 new graphics cards or another gtx580 (I have one of the 1.5gb vram versions atm :o ) but i really can't decide which way to go with this. I'm also on a corsair 850watt PSU still which is going to be a bit borderline too i imagine :(

What direction would you guys go in for triple monitors? I haven't had chance to do a LOT of reading up yet but i'm wondering if ATI is the obvious choice here? i'd prefer to stay with nvidia if possible unless ATI offers much better performance on triple monitors?

At the moment my best guess is perhaps 2x560ti (448's), maybe the msi ones?

Any help is very much appreciated!
 
What video card have you got now?

Stoner81.

Possibly a 1.5GB GTX580?


For three monitors with a 120HZ refresh, just get another GTX580 1.5GB card.

What motherboard do you have? is it SLI/Crossifre compatible?
 
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because of the 580 being a 1.5GB model i would suggest selling it on and getting two 2GB 560Tis. if it were the 3GB model then getting a second 580 would be the obvious choice because your PSU can happily cope with it
 
Yea the 1.5gb thing worried me :) especially when i'll be messing with battlefield 3 @ 5760x1080 res!

I'm sure i once read somewhere that ATI cards can run this sort of res without anything like the performance hit? did i dream that? i hope so because i do tend to favour nvidia generally.

Please keep the ideas coming :)

I think if you have 2x580 1.5gb vram cards then they'd both just stay at 1.5gb and wouldnt infact double? so at that crazy res it might have horrific results :( that is my current understanding anyway.
 
because of the 580 being a 1.5GB model i would suggest selling it on and getting two 2GB 560Tis. if it were the 3GB model then getting a second 580 would be the obvious choice because your PSU can happily cope with it

Would even 2gb be enough for this sort of resolution btw?
 
Yea the 1.5gb thing worried me :) especially when i'll be messing with battlefield 3 @ 5760x1080 res!

I'm sure i once read somewhere that ATI cards can run this sort of res without anything like the performance hit? did i dream that? i hope so because i do tend to favour nvidia generally.

Please keep the ideas coming :)

I think if you have 2x580 1.5gb vram cards then they'd both just stay at 1.5gb and wouldnt infact double? so at that crazy res it might have horrific results :( that is my current understanding anyway.

if your playing BF3 then thats a 100% no-no for SLI 1.5GB 580s.
theres an article burried in the news section comparing the 1GB and 2GB 560Tis. within it there is someone who bought two ASUS MARS IIs and cannot play BF3 at maximum at 2560x1600 because of the lack of VRAM. you have an even bigger res than that so 1.5GB clearly wont be enough

i would have thought that SLI 2GB 560Tis would be enough, but you may want to try the 3GB 7970 or 7950, because multi screen gaming is where they excel
 
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Thanks so far :) reading it all! and reading the net too.

Is it the 7950's coming out tomorrow?

Does anyone know if ATI eyefinity 100% supports 120hz? Ive always hated their implementation of 120hz because it feels more juttery to me :( hence having a huge preference towards Nvidia ideally.
 
Hi there.

Firstly, are you looking to game across the three monitors? If so then what I have to say may be very important.

Sell the GTX 580 and get a 7970.

Here are my reasons why I would do that, speaking of course from experience.

Firstly two Nvidia cards mean two times the power consumption and two times the heat. I've yet to meet either a motherboard or case that can be set up as such with air cooling. Of course by that I mean "get single card temps out of two", it just doesn't happen.

If you are prepared to live with the extra noise and heat* and power consumption then the next part becomes even more important.

* as soon as you connect two monitors to an Nvidia card it automatically goes under full load. This means that even a single card will now idle in the high 40s and low 50s before you even start. Your adaptive performance goes for a burton and you get hot. Then you add another card to that, and it gets hotter.

But worst of all, and what I just could not live with (I had resigned myself to sitting in a Turkish Bath beforehand) is the software issues and horrid layout of the monitors.

Right. SLI = hmmm.. Maybe, if you really want to.

Surround = hmmmm. Maybe, if you really want to.

SLI + Surround = No. Just.No.

Firstly as you know SLI relies on software. Software meaning drivers, and also game support. Both of which are so so IMO, and if you don't mind a wait then hey, I guess if you were happy with that then all's the good.

However. Surround = software based. Again, you will need to rely on Nvidia to keep you working and up to date. And, they don't. At all.

Here are my findings from running SLI with three monitors.

1. There is no such way in Windows 7 to see three displays seperately and then put them together. So, because of this, the drivers are a hack. They basically force the WHDM driver in Windows (I'm sure that's what it was called) to see the three monitors as two monitors. When you go to your desktop resolution settings in Windows this is what you will see, two monitors patched in the middle.

Because of that the options to change how the desktop is laid out are 0.

Your start bar will be all the way to the left, and your icons and volume and so on are all the way to the right.

2. Given the above, software simply does not understand the above. That means when you open say, Chrome, or Firefox, or a folder and maximise it the folder stretches across all three screens. Meaning you need to turn your mouse into a schizophrenic out patient in order to navigate.

None of that would be a problem if you could "snap to grid" your windows. But you can't. So as soon as you minimise you then have to resize manually onto the middle screen (or the side ones and get a lovely neck ache). However, your programs will not memorise those settings. Meaning, every single last time you open one up you have to sit and bugger about resizing it.

I found, due to the above, that I could not live with three screens as my desktop. In the end I built a second PC to play surround on.

3. Nvidia drivers are absolutely crap for surround. It's quite clear that Nvidia like to sell you two cards for the option of surround, and thus have lots of information about surround itself on their website and what cards you need to do it with (which of course they would, it boosts sales).

However, sadly, they don't give a flying crap about you or your wishes to play games over three monitors, so as driver revisions go they gleefully break things each time meaning you will be chasing your tail trying to find the perfect driver to stop the problems most have.

Those problems are.

1. Surround will not see your monitor resolutions or refresh rates properly.

That means you will then have to do it via the Windows desktop resolution part. However, that doesn't come without problems, so let's lead onto -

2. In most of the drivers I tried there were horrible refresh delays in drawing the three displays. What I mean is Aero would disable when you opened say, Chrome, and then take a couple of seconds to come back on. In a couple of drivers Aero broke completely and nothing I tried got it back.

3. The games. Oh dear the games :(

When you start a race on say, Dirt 3, it takes a couple of seconds it seems for the graphics to build and the screens to be ready. This is fine if you're playing single player, but if you're racing against a friend you've lost before you even started.

So, given all of the above it will come as no surprise that I broke out the polyfilla and took the monitors off the wall.

Apparently the 7000 series Radeons solve all of this, allowing you to use your middle display as the main one with all of your main icons, windows button and small icons and volume controls etc with the side ones being the extensions.

But I won't say for 100% if they do, I'm just certain I saw AMD bragging about it a few weeks ago and showing pics in the lead up to the 7970 release.

I hope that helps. And sorry if it's a little in depth for you, I just firmly believe that honest advice is good advice.

Cheers.
 
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I bet the benchmarks are amazing too damnit? :) i'm going to look now! Ah, still no info!


There are Crossfire 7970 reviews out there (GuruD/techpowerup etc) use that and take about 25% off.
 
Ouch, £700 for 2 :(

I bet the benchmarks are amazing too damnit? :) i'm going to look now! Ah, still no info!

I could not get any benchmarks to run in surround. 3Dmark for example (Vantage, I was running DX10 cards) would simply crash when loading unless you broke the screen array down and resorted to a single monitor.
 
I really appreciate these posts guys and all the help.

Thanks especially to Andy for the verrrrry long informative post :D

I must say i'm definitely leaning towards a 7xxx card. Really curious about these 7950's now but i'd rather have to check money etc :(
 
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