Turkey Grand Prix 2010, Istanbul Park - Race 7/19
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They're used to it.
Why are you surprised, Remember MSC, everyone thought those days where gone. Obviously not, but with every angel and several cameras on each cars and all the telemetry. It's not like teh mid 90's anymore. Internet age means info spreads fast adn wide.
I'm talking about how vettle and even more how the team reacted. Rather than teh actual move itself. Whivh is no where near as cunning as MSC. Nothing more than getting angry and being stupid.
It's in a article on the bbc, it does indeed make that much difference, 5to lap times. the idea is to set a fast pace early on to gain your position, then turn the engine down. I'll see if I can dig it out, Sure someone posted it earlier.
No, it is still vettles fault, no need to move into your team mate on an effective straight.
It's also illegal, so where did you get this from.
A) he does not resist, he just does not yield. If he yielded FIA would more than likely investigate team orders. Vettle moved into him on a straight, absolutely no need at that point. Regardless of orders.
B) team orders are against the rules.
I also think if team orders are going to be illegal, any radio comms saying fuel critical or similar, should be be looked at. It would be very easy to tell from the telemetry and rule out cheating.
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comms are monitored, so it can not be said over the radio in such clear terms, as such webber can not say that's against the rules. As that is telling teh FIA all they need to punish.
Sunama is just blind on this one. There was no need for vettle to come across, regardless what was said on the radio.
Sunama is just blind on this one. There was no need for vettle to come across, regardless what was said on the radio.
you keep forgetting team orders are against the rules, The engineer can't not say let vettel through. The best he can say is fuel's critical and save it.
It was 100% vettels fault, there can be no blame on webber or the engineer. Just vettle.
As far as I'm aware FIA did not even investigate it, probably due to it being team mates.
Vettel did not get the shock of his life, webber held his line, a perfect normal thing to do.
It was 100% vettels fault, there can be no blame on webber or the engineer. Just vettle.
As far as I'm aware FIA did not even investigate it, probably due to it being team mates.
Vettel did not get the shock of his life, webber held his line, a perfect normal thing to do.
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easy way to find out, it would take FIA 5 seconds with telemetry to work out if it was genuine or a team order.
yep, I am sure that was nothing but team orders. Jenson kept attacking. that would not happen if he thought he wouldn't make it to the end of teh race.
As in the article, they've only made about half teh time, where RBR have been running illegal aero designs, which have no been removed. Can't believe there so little articles and nothing from the fia.
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As in the article, they've only made about half teh time, where RBR have been running illegal aero designs, which have no been removed. Can't believe there so little articles and nothing from the fia.
what team was it that had the fuel pressurisation system. IIRC they didn't actually prove teh car was under weight at any point, just that it could drop below the minimum weight. Or am I not remembering it correctly. Yet RBR have parts that are clearly Illegal and nothing on the formula1 website or anything else. They also knew hence the crowding of people around it.
I really hopped this season and teh change in fia would bring an end to these silly decisions, but so far we have had MSC stripped of points, despite the fact race control messed up know illegal parts being swept under the carpet. Madness.
I really hopped this season and teh change in fia would bring an end to these silly decisions, but so far we have had MSC stripped of points, despite the fact race control messed up know illegal parts being swept under the carpet. Madness.
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This is just as damaging to teh sport, as it turns it into a scripted race. That is why the news has been so restricted.
I hope one of teh teams lodge legal action, that would blow the doors of and reveal what a stupid sport this is turning into.
They could at least say it's illegal, do news reports on it and just make them remove it and give them a fat fine.
I hope one of teh teams lodge legal action, that would blow the doors of and reveal what a stupid sport this is turning into.
They could at least say it's illegal, do news reports on it and just make them remove it and give them a fat fine.
The rules give you guidelines on punishment and should be followed.
it's only limited to 5degrees if it's aerodynamic. So a 20degrees plain tube, is perfectly legal.
Difference is a double diffuser isn't against the rules, Brawn also said in meetings before the start of the season, the rule should be tightened. To remove the loop hole.
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Then why the secrecy, why the apparent media ban. why nothing from the FIA about it.
My point wasn't that Honda should have got away with it, but how teh FIA reacted to cheating.