TV upgrade 50-55"

I came from the 55" LG Oled to the 55" 6400 and think the Samsung is a better screen. a few tweaks and the picture is fantastic and no need for any pro calibration if you ask me. I use mine for everything inc gaming and have had no issues. I do not use game mode and leave it in movie mode as it limits the backlight control.

I did have an issue with a dark area appearing on the screen but Samsung were no hassle to deal with and I had a new panel fitted within 14 days.

Great TV enjoy....
 
Does professional calibration involve someone measuring the screen output and then tweaking the normally available options to get a combination that is 'optimal'?

Or can they make changes that can't normally be done via the normal user menus?

Because if it's the former, you'd surely be nuts to spend money for someone else to tell you a picture is perfect when really you could tinker yourself and find something that you like
 
dl8860 said:
....you'd surely be nuts to spend money for someone else to tell you a picture is perfect when really you could tinker yourself and find something that you like
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My thoughts exactly - I'm fussy when it come to PQ and my F8000 self calibration is more than fine for my use - no chance I'd pay £300 for a calibration unless I needed it for pro work.
 
kona786 said:
My thoughts exactly - I'm fussy when it come to PQ and my F8000 self calibration is more than fine for my use - no chance I'd pay £300 for a calibration unless I needed it for pro work.
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Glad im not alone with these thoughts, i found a free piece of software to play on my ps4 to set my brightness/contrast etc. I guess you pay your money you make your choice.
 
I'd also want to see the difference a pro calibration makes before I shell out the money. This is versus my own calibration. If they offer that service and say a nominal fee if you are not happy to go ahead that would help. Hardly ever gonna happen though due to the time involved.
 
i couldn't find the review on hdtvtest mind linking it?

dl8860 said:
Does professional calibration involve someone measuring the screen output and then tweaking the normally available options to get a combination that is 'optimal'?

Or can they make changes that can't normally be done via the normal user menus?

Because if it's the former, you'd surely be nuts to spend money for someone else to tell you a picture is perfect when really you could tinker yourself and find something that you like
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LMAO

doing the above would be like someone with very little professional experience buying a car then remapping it by fiddling around with numbers then driving it around a track.

a pro calibration is like remapping a car by using a rolling road and then using calculated decisions by looking at the power graphs in comparison.

the sensors these guys use are worth a lot of money. the difference is like between hiring a professional well respected photographer for your wedding or getting you old pal jimmy's daughter who needs money for £100 and she got an slr 2 weeks before for her birthday.

https://www.avforums.com/article/wh...essional-video-TV-projector-calibration.10258


http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/calibration


you cannot copy settings off the internet either. that's not how it works. so if someone else has the same tv and says put x to this and y to that. it's not the same for your tv. each tv has like 2000+ different components in them which can vary by quality by a few percentage points each. add up all those points and you could have 2 of the exact same tv side by side yet one looks better than the other with stock settings simply due to slight differences in each capacitor and resistor.

unless you own a sensor yourself the amount of calibration you can do is minimal. and if your the type of person who likes to tweak settings and look for more performance why try to do it yourself knowing it's not done right and it could be for the sake of £200.

if you keep the tv for 5 years thats only £40 a year to know it has the best PQ possible.
 
when calibrating, isnt it just to get the colours as "accurate" as possible ?

that to say, someone may not like accurate colours and some may prefer a touch of oversaturation, or bluer/ or reder than others ?

and someone could just tweak the settings until they like them to suit their taste?

or have i misunderstood ?
 
Calibration makes your TV look as close to a set standard as possible. This to some might look bloody awful as well as TV's being different your eyes are also different. What calibration fails to adjust for is how people perceive and see differently. So you could spend £200 having it calibrated and to your eyes it could look awful and would have been a waste of money.

I find the best option is to download some test patterns and pictures and tweak the settings to what looks good to you and enjoy.

Spending a fortune on proffesional calibration is a waste of money for the average user who more than likely does not have perfect eyes.

Just set it up so you think it looks good get a few mates to see what they think then enjoy.... :-)
 
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MOOGLEYS said:
Calibration makes your TV look as close to a set standard as possible. This to some might look bloody awful as well as TV's being different your eyes are also different. What calibration fails to adjust for is how people perceive and see differently. So you could spend £200 having it calibrated and to your eyes it could look awful and would have been a waste of money.

I find the best option is to download some test patterns and pictures and tweak the settings to what looks good to you and enjoy.

Spending a fortune on proffesional calibration is a waste of money for the average user who more than likely does not have perfect eyes.

Just set it up so you think it looks good get a few mates to see what they think then enjoy.... :-)
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Thing is, most are so used to and think it is normal seeing a blue-ish picture. When some of those have experienced a calibrated picture they think it is either too warm or yellow-ish. For too many years their memory has gotten so used to blue anything else feels wrong.

Let alone the most complained about when they think their set is messed up and cannot see shadow detail. I still see complaints for some movies slating them for lack of dark details.

Then of course after that when those have had their sets setup correctly they think their blacks are grey because they can see all the shadow detail. As they have been so used to crushed blacks. It still doesn't end there. Some don't like gamma 2.4 for lights out or even BT.1886. Gamma 2.2/2.25 works best in dim lighting. Most people wont know what gamma their set is displaying as some can be all over the place through the greyscale when measured.
 
Saw an oled set today. All i can say is wow. Cant wait for prices to come down it pees all over 4k lcd sets. It looked perfect black levels were like nothing ive seen before and the colours were fantastic too. It looked real whereas the 4k top of the range sony ive seen in the past looked fake when playing real 4k content (4k demo torrented off the net).

The set i saw was 2000 euros for a curved 42 inch or thereabouts so yeah expensive but i can wait for prices to come down.

But if you put that into perspective you can easily justify calibrating one of these sets as its so cheap to begin with. Plenty of people pay to get their cars remapped. Pay to get a overclocked gpu or cpu, etc. People pay £300 for an antimode for their subwoofer, etc. Its not for everyone but if your an enthusiast then its money well spent
 
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I had a long demo of the LG 55EF950V last weekend at £2200 a lot of money and a bit past my sweet spot but definitely very very impressive.
 
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