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The most horrifying weekend of Formula One racing took place. The events of that weekend are something we all hope will never be seen again.

Of course, the entire weekend will never be forgotten for the death of Ayrton Senna, arguably the greatest talent to ever sit in a Formula One car but we must never forget that a young Austrian talent in Roland Ratzenberger lost his life in an equally violent crash.

Seeing footage of that weekend still chokes me to tears now. I can't watch the accident that killed Senna. I was too young to really understand in 1994, and only really learned of Senna when I started watching F1 in 1996. We shall never forget them.

65 poles.
41 wins.
19 fastest laps.
3 world championships.
One legacy.

Rest in peace Ayrton and Roland.
 
I can't believe it's been 20 years already. I was only 9 when it happened but it's still such a vivid memory of mine. Even now I get emotional thinking about it. Such an awful weekend.

RIP
 
That quote in the McLaren video is so iconic.
One of my earliest memories is that weekend (yes I have rubbish memory)

Who knew what he could have accomplished.

And Ratzenberger is often forgotten, do nice that some people are mentioning him.
It had been what 8 since the last death in f1, which is why it came as such a shock.
 
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RIP to both very brave and awesome men :(

But I'm still mad about Bernie not stopping the race weekend after Ratzenberger died on track. A Senna would still be alive today.
 
Rest In Peace x

A beautiful Man, on, as well as off the track. One of the best examples of a Human Being in History.

Never forgotten, always remembered.
 
But I'm still mad about Bernie not stopping the race weekend after Ratzenberger died on track. A Senna would still be alive today.
Why would he stop the race ?!
Bernie told Nick Wirth (owner and technical director of the Simtek team) to continue racing the other car with Brabham as that is what Ratzenberger would have wanted.
 
Why would he stop the race ?!
Bernie told Nick Wirth (owner and technical director of the Simtek team) to continue racing the other car with Brabham as that is what Ratzenberger would have wanted.


I'm not going to turn this thread in to a argument. Go and read the Italian legal code of F1 at that time.

To anyone else. Start another thread if you want to discus this.
 
I was 14. The memories are still vivid. Barrichello's accident was shown on Grandstand, and it was horrifying. He was extremely lucky in many ways.

I didn't see Saturday qualifying (it wasn't televised on the BBC, there were just sporadic reports on Grandstand - it was on Eurosport, but we didn't have it). My dad saw the report and told me. I didn't really take it in - Ratzenberger had only just had one race (he didn't qualify for Interlagos), so I knew nothing of him, and it didn't really affect me. I was sad, but I wasn't upset.

Sunday rolled over, everyone in a sombre mood. The start-line crash happened, but everyone climbed out (the BBC didn't know about injuries on the roof of the grandstand at that point) but you start thinking about the weekend and how many nasty accidents can you have over, what, 6 and a half hours of track action? The restart happened and finally things start going... then, onboard with Schumacher, Senna plunged off to the right. Murray's immediate voice still gets me now "and Senna!" - not the voice of surprise that Senna has gone off, but more the voice of someone in a state of shock at just what's happened over the last 3 days. We'd obviously had far, far worse-looking accidents at that corner (Alboreto, Piquet and Berger) with bruising and small hand burns being the only injuries, but Senna didn't climb out. From the helicopter view you saw Senna's head move and I was filled with a sense of relief, which quickly ebbed away when his head didn't move again. The BBC then cut to their own cameras in the pitlane, showing bewildered zombies wandering around in pure disbelief - the man himself, the previous 2 days, everything. Then, somehow, Larrousse decided it would be a good idea to send Comas out onto track, entering Tamberello at full throttle, where the medical helicopter had landed and there were several medical vehicles, and the team were tending to Senna at the side of the track...

While by Italian law, the race should have never happened after Ratzenberger's crash, I was staggered it wasn't halted after Senna's. By that point people seemed to know or sense Senna was in great danger. I remember a lot of shaking my head at that point, but there were no tears. I hadn't liked Senna while he was battling with Mansell, but since Mansell had gone, Prost had taken the dominant Williams, then Senna had seemed the underdog against Schumacher (irrespective of reasons), I'd warmed massively to him... then he'd gone. You knew he had. Most of the actually racing was bit of a blur until Alboreto's pitstop, where once again you were plucked from bewilderment into a "what the actual **** is happening" mind set. Thankfully the Ferrari mechanic injured (I seem to remember a broken leg) suffered nothing more.

After the race we sat waiting for news. I think it came on the news bulletin following Grandstand, with Senna being clinically dead. I feared it was coming, but I didn't take it in. I don't whether I couldn't or wouldn't, but I was sat in a daze. Eventually I went off to the farm where a few of us volunteered at that point - I needed something to do and be around people who didn't know. I still didn't cry though - I don't know why.

I remember the highlights show that night was cancelled and in it's place Steve Rider hosted a programme showing highlights of Senna's career and discussing the events of the weekend.

While it was a horrific weekend, with 2 drivers lost, we could have easily lost Barrichello, Lamy, the fans (policemen?) on the grandstand and the Ferrari mechanics in the pitlane too, but you can't be thankful that just 2 drivers lost their lives.

There was little in the way of positives in the 1994 season. Just 2 weeks later Wendlinger was plunged into a coma, Alesi had already broken his back, Lehto his neck, Brundle somehow avoided death at Interlagos due to Irvine's lunacy, Lamy was injured in a crash at Silverstone testing, Verstappen's pit fire, the poor marshal at Suzuka... I'm sure there's more. The only real positives were Mansell's two poles and a win (I was still following him in Indycar) and the Ferrari 412 T1.

RIP guys. RIP.


Why would he stop the race ?!
Bernie told Nick Wirth (owner and technical director of the Simtek team) to continue racing the other car with Brabham as that is what Ratzenberger would have wanted.

Read David Brabham's excellent post. The FIA and his Simtek team said it was up to him whether to race or not. He chose to do the morning warmup, saw it lifted the team and he felt he had to race after that.
 
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Still can't believe he has gone! I remember being 20 at the time and had followed F1 with an intense passion, been to many grand prix and watched the great man at work and there was always something inevitable about Senna, he would always bang in a lap that made you go "Wow", it was something that none of the others had.

Some of my mates who never watched him often ask me why people hold him in such high regard, and it is really hard to explain, but there is a big part of me that just sees a completely undiluted commitment to winning and his outrageous speed. I remember following F3 at various U.K circuits in 1983 and even then he had much more determination than the others. For me, he was/is the greatest, without any question in my mind. ironic though that Senna's hardest rival was never Prost, Brundle (f3) or even Schumacher....It was a guy named Terry Fullerton and that is Senna's own opinion.

I like to think that Ayrton would have won at least two more world titles, I believe that he would have won in 94 and 95, perhaps he could have had the 96 title too when you look at how good the Williams was in that period.

R.I.P Ayrton and Roland





Why would he stop the race ?!
Bernie told Nick Wirth (owner and technical director of the Simtek team) to continue racing the other car with Brabham as that is what Ratzenberger would have wanted.

Under Italian law, If any driver died whilst at the circuit, then the race would had to have been cancelled, somehow it was all agreed that Roland died in Hospital, contrary to reports claiming he died on impact. I believe he died at the circuit and Senna's death was completely avoidable. that is my onion on it.
 
The most horrifying weekend of Formula One racing took place.

I'm not sure about that. By all accounts Belgium 1960 was gruesome.

Not that it's a competition of course, but the legendary status of Senna and the relatively recent time are the reasons for it being more remembered.
 
The most horrifying weekend of Formula One racing took place. The events of that weekend are something we all hope will never be seen again.

Of course, the entire weekend will never be forgotten for the death of Ayrton Senna, arguably the greatest talent to ever sit in a Formula One car but we must never forget that a young Austrian talent in Roland Ratzenberger lost his life in an equally violent crash.

Minor pedant: Ratzenberger came late to F1 and was only a year younger than Senna. By all accounts he was a really nice guy, though. He'd never have been WDC or probably even a race winner, but he was still a loss. If Ratzenberger hadn't died, Senna might not have spoken up at the driver briefing the next day demanding the stronger safety rules that were implemented after his own death. We would probably have lost Brundle, Kubica and Gutierrez without those.
 
I know that, but when someone dies in their 30's, then that's still very young to have lost their life. That's what I meant.

You have to have some level of talent to be allowed in an F1 car (unless you're called Yuji Ide) and he didn't do badly at all until that weekend.
 
We would probably have lost Brundle, Kubica and Gutierrez without those.

Kubica certainly (the most brutal F1 crash I've seen live), but Brundle's 1996 accident, while spectacular, was fairly tame. He didn't really hit anything as such, and the only real danger was him being hit by his own engine or gearbox - I'm not sure the extra head protection would have helped him much then).
 
You have to have some level of talent to be allowed in an F1 car (unless you're called Yuji Ide or Taki Inoue) and he didn't do badly at all until that weekend.

Fixed for you ;)

Looking at Senna's qualifying lap for Monaco 1988 makes him appear almost god-like. It took the tragic deaths of Ayrton and Roland that weekend to eventually have drastic improvements made to Formula One safety.

Ayrton was almost like two different people. With the helmet on, he was an unforgiving driving genius and wouldn't give anyone an inch. Helmet off, a loving and caring man who wanted to change the world for better, from safety within the sport, to education and opportunities for those back in Brazil. A remarkable man.

Senna Sempre!
 
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I'm not going to turn this thread in to a argument. Go and read the Italian legal code of F1 at that time.

To anyone else. Start another thread if you want to discus this.

Well there is your answer - the Italian legal system is a complete disaster lol

Prosecuting the Williams team for this death is beyond a joke.

(Of course the proper investigations should be done in all cases, but prosecuting a racing team is going too far)
 
Well there is your answer - the Italian legal system is a complete disaster lol

Prosecuting the Williams team for this death is beyond a joke.

(Of course the proper investigations should be done in all cases, but prosecuting a racing team is going too far)

Read the thread please dude.

Under Italian law, If any driver died whilst at the circuit, then the race would had to have been cancelled, somehow it was all agreed that Roland died in Hospital, contrary to reports claiming he died on impact. I believe he died at the circuit and Senna's death was completely avoidable. that is my onion on it.
 
For Senna's sake, let's keep this thread about him and not digress onto legal this and that's.

This thread ought to be about Senna and his life only.
 
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