dunno, it's about par w/ Tesco from what i've seen.
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it basically turns a store into a giant vending machine. you could probably just use gravity and have no robots to refill shelves.
what if all products are round and roll out of their box onto the shelf guided by rails.
one person would just need to put all the boxes in place.
someone has to setup the stupid robot and unload any boxes for it anyway
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Staffing problems are an issue where pay and opportunities are low, in the main. Mental health nursing, for example.
Repetitive tasks will continue to be automated. More complex, irregular work (e.g. roofing) won't be.
There will be swathes of people in low skill sectors who won't be able to find work, once those jobs are gone. That will become a big problem for governments as income tax revenues fall.
Looks like that thing goes about the same speed as some the workers at my work place
Yeah tbf. It only solves the very easiest part of the problem.
Tesco have had this for ages for spices and wines - the shelf is spring loaded to push the stock to the front.
I've not watched the whole video, but given it's Japan it's very likely not meant to be done because it's faster or cheaper than a human, but because they simply have such a shortage of working age humans to do a lot of these jobs, so a slow human replacement is still worth doing even if it only means that you can have your staff spend a few hours a shift on something else.Looks like that thing goes about the same speed as some the workers at my work place
It might be the case in some areas that there are staffing issues I some particular areas due to employers not paying enough to attract staff or the jobs not having many career advancement opportunities (I'd have thought shelf stacking might fit into those definitions too tbh though...), but there must be a broader shortage of staff too - or else the lowest recent unemployment level would have been a lot higher than the 3.8% it was at in June, for example: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentan...oyeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/august2022
Historic figures for comparison: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment/timeseries/mgsx/lms
If automation does advance to the point where we do actually have masses of unskilled labour unable to find jobs, it will only be a problem for governments that let it be a problem. By reforming the tax system they could still raise enough tax from highly automated companies to fund expenditure, and retraining schemes coupled with jobs programs for those unable to take on more skilled work I don't think they will necessarily be wasted.
Robot automation like this is designed so that ultimately the super rich can live in their dream cities without having to have the filthy urchins doing the menial jobs and reminding them what is outside the gilded walls (maybe joking but probably not, as we creep further closer to the dystopian future made reality).
Kind of but not really. Us urchins are now refusing 'work that's beneath us'. Unfortunately that means we need to augment our industries with automation.
People whinge that self checkout is to displace staff but really it's because for years the supermarket has struggled to get reliable staff for such crappy jobs with crappy hours for crappy pay.
I think the latter part of your last sentence explains exactly why they struggled to get the staff...
I find it slightly amusing that it seems that Aldi has fewer problems with hiring, and retaining staff than the "big" supermarkets, and seem to operate their stores more efficiently*. Almost like paying a bit of a premium works
The silly thing is that the robot shelf stackers won't fix the problem, not whilst humans still insist on having "nice" and "efficient but hard to handle" packaging, and whilst even things like crisps that are delivered in display boxes still require a human to open the box because the contents move about and it does take a bit of unthinking skill/ability to open the display/shipping box without damaging the contents.
Although having said that, the place my brother in law works at (plastics factory) has apparently been struggling to recruit and retain staff for a while, it turns out their wages for new staff are lower than many of the easier, safer, more sociable jobs in the area.
*I was in an Asda the other night (not my choice, my nephew's pregnant partner needed a big shop), and there were two people I could see operating the checkouts, one of them in the self serve area rushed off her feet, and one on the only manned checkout (out of dozens) that was open.
Have you ever spoken to someone that works at Aldi? They work for their money. And because the supermarkets are typically smaller, and more densely packed with produce, they can afford to do so. It is a different business model entirely. Much like why Argos 'works'.I think the latter part of your last sentence explains exactly why they struggled to get the staff...
I find it slightly amusing that it seems that Aldi has fewer problems with hiring, and retaining staff than the "big" supermarkets, and seem to operate their stores more efficiently*. Almost like paying a bit of a premium works
The silly thing is that the robot shelf stackers won't fix the problem, not whilst humans still insist on having "nice" and "efficient but hard to handle" packaging, and whilst even things like crisps that are delivered in display boxes still require a human to open the box because the contents move about and it does take a bit of unthinking skill/ability to open the display/shipping box without damaging the contents.
Although having said that, the place my brother in law works at (plastics factory) has apparently been struggling to recruit and retain staff for a while, it turns out their wages for new staff are lower than many of the easier, safer, more sociable jobs in the area.
*I was in an Asda the other night (not my choice, my nephew's pregnant partner needed a big shop), and there were two people I could see operating the checkouts, one of them in the self serve area rushed off her feet, and one on the only manned checkout (out of dozens) that was open.
Regarding crisps - Pringles were ahead of the game
Anyone into gaming (why are you here if not) check out Detroit become human, a decision based game with multiple endings and roles but primarily about the future of humanity with robots.
R.e the self checkout post above I always feel a frustration at seeing no to minimal tills open at a supermarket .
Although the small Tesco I do use self check out because it’s actually quicker when there’s a queue
R.e the self checkout post above I always feel a frustration at seeing no to minimal tills open at a supermarket .
Although the small Tesco I do use self check out because it’s actually quicker when there’s a queue
Read the book called Abundance for another viewpoint.
With automation the unit cost for everything will become "free".
Could you give me a summary about how they worked that out?
I did post that mostly in jest but I somewhat disagree about the 'work that's beneath us' bit. There have always been people with that attitude, I think the reality is that people now value their worth as the crappy jobs are still quite key to a functioning workplace, and rightly so. You pay peanuts etc.
However, I am also part of the problem, as I much prefer to use automated chechouts, selfscan and the like. I can what I want much more efficiently than most people in a shop and like to get in an out. Not to say I won't happily chat if someone is nearby at the till or I get a 'random' check.
I have been on the other side of the tills and have the utmost respect for anyone who puts up with the public day in, day out for weeks or years on end.
In the end businesses will always put profit over people and if an efficiency report and trial shows that a robot will be 'better' over the long term, it's bye bye human.
Never mind, plenty to be cheerful about when the sex robots rebel.
So we won’t need to work as much if at all?
Much as people despise working, that would be an existential crisis on its own
As a a very crude example...what's the unit cost of an elastic band if a bag of 1000 was 10 pence? Extrapolate that out to mining raw material all the way through to refining and creating a product.
Until the recent toxic version of capitalism most studies estimated we could sustain sufficient productivity with a 3 day work week by 2020 thanks to automation. Unfortunately greed and spineless governments got in the way.So we won’t need to work as much if at all?
Much as people despise working, that would be an existential crisis on its own
Can't say that's the impression I get, seems like the opposite but I guess it depends on where you live..
all closing the tills seems to have done is put more people order picking, the same people picking for online orders could be on the tills, seems more like they wanted to push people away from the stores by making it uncomfortable with long queues