Tyres.

[TW]Fox;19051391 said:
Yea, no need to bother with the Falkens unless you are on a tight budget.

I'd stick with the Conti's.
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Nice one SC3's it is then. Cheers guys :)
 
Will do. I will be buying this week so will let you guys know what I went for and what I think.
 
What I don't understand is why cars are still coming off the production line shod with SC2s.
The Golf VI GTI, for one..
 
mjt said:
What I don't understand is why cars are still coming off the production line shod with SC2s.
The Golf VI GTI, for one..
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Yeah I don't really get it either. I know Conti are having huge problems producing tyres at the moment and In my size 245/40-18 they have had none available for wholesalers for about three months (either SC5 or SC3). They have loads of problems because they have no/little stock and I think its mid June they switch most production capacity to the next lot of winter tyres. It could even be though that the original deals with manufacturers were for SC2s and they are cheaper to produce or like has been said they have a back stock they have shifted cheap (haven't seen the date on the tyres).

I went for asymmetric 2s in the end as I couldn't wait any longer for them.
 
Dandle said:
Yeah I don't really get it either. I know Conti are having huge problems producing tyres at the moment and In my size 245/40-18 they have had none available for wholesalers for about three months (either SC5 or SC3). They have loads of problems because they have no/little stock and I think its mid June they switch most production capacity to the next lot of winter tyres. It could even be though that the original deals with manufacturers were for SC2s and they are cheaper to produce or like has been said they have a back stock they have shifted cheap (haven't seen the date on the tyres).

I went for asymmetric 2s in the end as I couldn't wait any longer for them.
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Hmm.

I can't remember the production date on the GTI I test drove, but we'll see what ours comes with next month..
 
A little update - It turns out that Porsche tyres are N2 or N4 rated (according to some guy on the phone) now I must have phoned 20 companies trying to get something sorted for this weekend, I know, I know, I said I was in no rush but I decided that I want to get some driving in this weekend before it comes off the road for a month to get work done (leather repaired, detailed with paint correction and the gearbox rebuilt with performance clutch).

It turns out that there are 3 tyres I can put on, SC2's - not SC3's as there are no Porsche N rated SC3's, some bridgestones (some guy recommended I don't do this and keep the same tyre on all four corners) and some michillin tyres. Again I was told to keep the same tyre front and back so I went on the hunt for the N2 rated SC2's.

Hens teeth is the phrase that comes to mind, after ringing literally every tyre company in 20 miles from me only one can get the tyres and is charging a premium for the privilege. After a bit of negotiation I’m getting them fitted tomorrow SC2's N2 rated tyres £176 a corner fitted with balancing and my front wheels re-balanced for free.

So an entire morning wasted - Looking for tyres has never been so difficult.
 
I wouldnt get too hung up on the N on the side wall, lots and lots and lots of people in Porsches without N rated tyres, just buy good tyres.
 
Nice one Mark, think Ill just go with these. SC2's from camskill are 150 odd so with fitting and balancing this doesn't seem to bad a deal. Not only that but they can fit them tomorrow and I get the weekend to hoon around. Next time I will go for all four and not worry about the N rating.

I was wondering what this N rating is all about. Never before have I owned a car which has specific tyres made for them, most places seemed dead set on only supplying an N rated tyre. One guy even said some rubbish about using N rated for insurance purposes - He was probably taking the last hit from his crack pipe at the time.
 
Jaguar used to do with Pirelli, bit different but still.

Lots of different points of view on this but i dont know anyone thats car has exploded not having the N rated tyres on them.
 
DM said:
I wouldnt get too hung up on the N on the side wall, lots and lots and lots of people in Porsches without N rated tyres, just buy good tyres.
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Never having had a Porsche I can't comment, however I did come across this:

The Dreaded N Specification

Many people have difficulty with this when choosing replacement tyres, so this article sets out the position specific to the 993, although many aspects affect other models.

The N Specification is a Porsche system of approved tyres, first introduced in the 1988 Model Year – it means that Porsche have worked with the manufacturer to produce an optimal road tyre for a particular model and wheel size combination, and tested it to their satisfaction at the time. Whenever this process is performed for an individual set of approved tyres, the N spec number will increase. Often this will coincide with a model change, but can certainly occur within a model’s lifetime, and thus a bewildering chart of approved wheel and tyre combinations (for summer and winter use) is produced and published every year in Christophorus, the Porsche company magazine. Importantly, Porsche recommendation is matching brand, type and correct N spec ALL ROUND …..

For the 993 the variables come down to 16”, 17” and 18” wheels, wide or narrow body, and manufacturers Bridgestone, Continental, Dunlop, Michelin, Pirelli, Toyo and Yokohama. Not all manufacturers produce (or did produce) all sizes, and, being in England, we generally ignore the winter recommendations, which are aimed towards use on packed snow. This may be a consideration for some users, of course! 16” wheels are also a rarity here, so I’ll skip those.

The last list for 993 was produced for MY 1998 and, strictly speaking, these are the highest N specs for the particular tyres that should be fitted to 993s – manufacturers do continue to produce the same sizes in multiple N specs, although sometimes you have to search hard to get the correct one. Higher (and some lower) N spec tyres will not have been tested on the 993, although they may work well. Sometimes manufacturers produce identical size / models with and without the N rating. The N spec tyre will be different in some way, compound, tread grooves, whatever, but it may not be apparent.
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=225907
 
I read a million of those debates and arguments and my first choice on a Porsche would be an N rated tyre.

On the other hand if i was caught short and needed tyres quick and there were no N's available id buy a non N pair of tyres or whatever.

Despite all the bumf i cant help thinking that 200 mph is the same in a Porsche as any other car. If a tyre is rated to a speed its rated to a speed whatever car it happens to be on.
 
DM said:
I read a million of those debates and arguments and my first choice on a Porsche would be an N rated tyre.

On the other hand if i was caught short and needed tyres quick and there were no N's available id buy a non N pair of tyres or whatever.

Despite all the bumf i cant help thinking that 200 mph is the same in a Porsche as any other car. If a tyre is rated to a speed its rated to a speed whatever car it happens to be on.
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Your absolutly right and up until today I didn't even know they made manufacturer specific tyres.
 
The CSC3's on Blackcircle would work out at £355 fitted for the two (£177.44 each).

So that would be cheaper only if you couldnt get them fitted for less than about £65.
 
VinceB1 said:
Your absolutly right and up until today I didn't even know they made manufacturer specific tyres.
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They say it has to do with handling and ride as well, but i cant tell the difference, though i have never pretended to be any good at driving, maybe Damen Hill could tell the difference but i cant.
 
DM said:
They say it has to do with handling and ride as well, but i cant tell the difference, though i have never pretended to be any good at driving, maybe Damen Hill could tell the difference but i cant.
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I would like to think I can tell the difference but truth be told I have no idea. Even though I sometimes think I am Damon Hill when out on a country lane blast - truth be told the car and tyres both perform over and above my ability. So long as it goes in a straight line and doesn't crab across the road I am a happy man!
 
It just means the tyres are OEM fitment for the car theres loads of different codes. MO = Mercedes Option, AO = Audi Option, N = Porsche, Star = BMW. Just means the tyres are approved by the manufacturer for the car. If the later tyre wasn't fitted as OEM then it won't get and N rating as in the SC3. The tyres arent made different for each manufacturer as some would have you believe.
 
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