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U.S. issues warning to NVIDIA

Nvidia, AMD and Intel are free to pack up and become Chinese companies if they don't like it. Just remember in China you can be disappeared and your company shut down overnight if emperor Xi doesn't like it, just ask Jack Ma and many others what operating a tech company in China is like
 
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I would think this would be seen as a good thing by gamers. If there is less competition to buy the overpriced products, to use for something other than gaming, is should lower prices. Remember it isn't gaming that put up the prices, it was crypto and now AI and to some extent a reduced supply. As always the only answer is to not pay inflated prices ;)
 
Leaving the politics of it aside what i find most interesting is how quickly Nvidia worked around the restrictions, obviously it's not an entirely new architecture and they've probably just fused off parts of the silicon but to be able to turn that around in 3 months is interesting.
 
Grim5 said:
Nvidia, AMD and Intel are free to pack up and become Chinese companies if they don't like it. Just remember in China you can be disappeared and your company shut down overnight if emperor Xi doesn't like it, just ask Jack Ma and many others what operating a tech company in China is like
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There is a lot more nuance to that, Jack Ma basically told the banking regulators to go and take a hike, which is unwise in any country, especially if you want to get into finance.
As for Ma himself, he's fine, just with a bruised ego and now he's consoling himself by launching the first Xiaomi car.

Honestly, it was like that in the west as well, at least before entrepreneurs started being treated like celebrities, it's not too unlike what Microsoft went through in the late 1990s, where they got grilled by antitrust.
 
Nasher said:
A big thing is China and Russia using western tech in weapons systems, especially processors. If they stop that it stops them making effect guidance systems etc.

They don't have their own equivalents. China relies on copying and stealing tech from the US and Europe.
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It’ll almost definitely backfire.

Russia and China will be forced to create their own devices and manufacturing methods, which, due to external pressures, could end up being better than what we currently have available.


At least when you’re letting them use your own stuff you’re able to exert a level of control
 
MrRockliffe said:
It’ll almost definitely backfire.

Russia and China will be forced to create their own devices and manufacturing methods, which, due to external pressures, could end up being better than what we currently have available.


At least when you’re letting them use your own stuff you’re able to exert a level of control
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They'd have to steal it first and reverse engineer it, just like the lithography processes stolen from ASML.
 
MrRockliffe said:
Russia and China will be forced to create their own devices and manufacturing methods, which, due to external pressures, could end up being better than what we currently have available.
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They were already doing that years, even decades, before this export ban. I've not checked recently but IIRC China's best efforts underperforms pretty drastically.

That's not to say they'll not get there eventually but i suspect much like other attempts by Russia and China to copy western products they end up being inferior.
 
MrRockliffe said:
It’ll almost definitely backfire.

Russia and China will be forced to create their own devices and manufacturing methods, which, due to external pressures, could end up being better than what we currently have available.


At least when you’re letting them use your own stuff you’re able to exert a level of control
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Well that's what happened during the cold war and after it ended we saw they had actually fallen decades behind.

For Russia it's worse now. A huge chunk of of their engineers, scientists, IT experts etc fled the country when conscription started. There is no wall stopping them this time.
 
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