UEFA Champions & Europa League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [27th - 29th April 2021]
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lol cmon, Navas + the wall is hardly his fault, set up well first half and players failed to execute.
Losing the head is very spursy of them but they do the same in the league, big bottler club
Caporegime
You can’t game manage when you have players like that.
Soldato
Neymar going to get himself sent off.
Caporegime
PSG have gone from giving City no time on the ball and shutting them out of the game to giving City all the time in the world.
Oooh that was a little naughty from De Bruyne.
Oooh that was a little naughty from De Bruyne.
Caporegime
City have this gift wrapped. Only Chelsea can spoil their party and people say the ESL would cause a closed club. Football is already a closed club to cold war criminals and oil barons.
When was the last oil baron or cold war criminal win
? (And when will they do it in normal circumstances)
Don
The absolute salt in here tonight 
The game management side is "they're going to have a lot of the ball and knock it around, don't get frustrated or give anything away". Yes, you're going to get one off instances of players being idiots, but this has happened to Poch time and again, including with the Spurs team he built over a number of years, that you have to look at it as more than a serious of one offs. I hope Poch manages to win something big as he seems a decent guy and I like the football his teams play, but I don't see him as being in that league yet
But this PSG team has shown the same behaviour with every manager and not just on the big stage
Caporegime
Think the draw would've been a fairer result given how well PSG played in the first half but City took their chances in the second.
Yes, I get that - but this is also following the same pattern as occurred under Poch at Spurs. You can say that Spurs are being Spursy, but he was there for long enough to leave his own mark and stop that
Caporegime
They pretty much did that in the first half, the pundits even said Poch had got it right.
The two goals were individual errors and then Gueye decides he’s had enough.
You can’t manage those mistakes out of players or the game, we even saw that with Klopp.
Soldato
really good game of football
Soldato
Everyone always says Neymar is world class, don't see how as he always goes missing in big matches and is one of the most petulant players ever, it's alright banging the goals in in the French farmers league but that doesn't make you "world class".
Yeah, that's my point. As soon as they started to get put on the back foot, they lost it with mistakes and hot headedness. I appreciate there's the debate about whether that's down to the players or the manager, but it's happened under Poch before and I'd argue that at least an element is him still having stuff to learn
And I'd argue that he's gone from one team notorious for bottling it to another team notorious for bottling it, and they're incredibly petulant to boot. You can argue he hasn't been able to stamp that out but the fact it's there in the first place isn't his fault.
But that Spurs side was entirely his team. I get that they're "notorious bottlers" and it's amusing that Spurs are always Spursy, but in practice how does that manifest if not via the managers or the players he brings in and plays?