UEFA Champions League/Europa League 5/6/7 November *** Spoilers ***

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Champions League Matchday 4 - 19:45 (except ## at 17:00)

Tuesday 5

Real Sociedad v Man Utd, GpA, ITV and Radio 5 live
Man City v CSKA Moscow, GpD, Sky Sports 2


All fixtures on Sky Red Button:

Juventus v Real Madrid, Sky Sports 4
Shakhtar Donetsk v Bayer Leverkusen, GpA
FC Copenhagen v Galatasaray
PSG v Anderlecht
Olympiacos v Benfica
Plzen v Bayern Munich, GpD


Wednesday 6

Chelsea v Schalke 04, GpE, Sky Sports 2
Borussia Dortmund v Arsenal, GpF, Sky Sports 1 and Radio 5 live
Ajax v Celtic, GpH, Sky Sports 4


All fixtures on Sky Red Button:

Zenit St Petersburg v FC Porto, ##
Atletico Madrid v FK Austria Vienna
Barcelona v AC Milan, GpH
Basle v Steaua Bucuresti, GpE
Napoli v Marseille, GpF


Europa League Matchday 4

Thursday 6

Kuban Krasnodar v Swansea, GpA, 17:00, ITV4
Rubin Kazan v Wigan, GpD, 17:00, BT SPORT 1
Spurs v FC Sheriff, GpK, 20:05, ITV4

The Rest

St Gallen v Valencia, 18:00, GpA
Ludogorets v Chornomorets, 18:00
PSV v Dinamo Zagreb, 18:00
Esbjerg v IF Elfsborg, 18:00
Standard Liege v SV Red Bull Salzburg, 18:00
Maribor v Zulte-Waregem, 18:00, GpD, BT SPORT 1
Dnipro v Pacos Ferreira, 18:00
Pandurii Targu-Jiu v Fiorentina, 18:00
Apoel Nicosia v Bordeaux, 18:00
Maccabi Tel-Aviv v Eintracht Frankfurt, 18:00
Rapid Vienna v Genk, 20:05
FC Thun v Dynamo Kiev, 20:05
Sevilla v Liberec, 20:05, BT SPORT 1
Estoril v SC Freiburg, 20:05
Rijeka v Lyon, 20:05
Guimaraes v Real Betis, 20:05
Legia Warsaw v Trabzonspor, 20:05
Lazio v Apollon Limassol, 20:05
Tromso v Anzhi Makhachkala, 20:05, GpK
AZ v Shakhtyor Karagandy, 20:05
Maccabi Haifa v PAOK Salonika, 20:05

 
Hopefully the Dortmund - Arsenal game will be a bit more interesting than last time.

Juve - Madrid looks tasty, particularly given Madrid's recent defensive hilarity.
 
Got my tickets, all set for Wednesday night :D


I really can't see us getting anything from this game. I reckon we'll get outclassed from the first minute but here's hoping for a draw!
 
Will do. I'll try and get a few videos of the Dortmund fans. They were incredible last time I went. By far the best atmosphere I have ever experienced.
 
Have fun mate and dont worry...i reckon we will get something out of this game. We only lost the first game due to some sloppy defending but having beaten Liverpool this weekend, we are riding on a high.

Id be happy with a draw though if anything. Hopefully Marseille will get something out of their game against Napoli.
 
Have fun mate and dont worry...i reckon we will get something out of this game. We only lost the first game due to some sloppy defending but having beaten Liverpool this weekend, we are riding on a high.

Id be happy with a draw though if anything. Hopefully Marseille will get something out of their game against Napoli.

Dortmund barely turned up last time and still managed to find a way to win. It was the worst performance I had seen from them in ages so I think you will find it a little harder this time.
 
Dortmund barely turned up last time and still managed to find a way to win. It was the worst performance I had seen from them in ages so I think you will find it a little harder this time.

It will be harder as it's away, but let's be fair; Arsenal hardly played to their potential last time out either. Both teams could play much, much better.
 
It will be harder as it's away, but let's be fair; Arsenal hardly played to their potential last time out either. Both teams could play much, much better.

Yes we can def play much better especially compared to last game against them! I think after the liverpool game if we play with that same confidence we should be able to get 3 points.
 
It will be harder as it's away, but let's be fair; Arsenal hardly played to their potential last time out either. Both teams could play much, much better.

No but I would say that Arsenal perhaps played at 70-80% and Dortmund at about 40-50%. I'm not saying Arsenal can't beat them but all things considered I think Arsenal are still big underdogs. I always like to see Arsenal do well and I like their style of play but I think some people are getting a little carried away. Dortmund at their peak are a brilliant side with a great blend of defensive strength and attacking merit.
 
No but I would say that Arsenal perhaps played at 70-80% and Dortmund at about 40-50%. I'm not saying Arsenal can't beat them but all things considered I think Arsenal are still big underdogs. I always like to see Arsenal do well and I like their style of play but I think some people are getting a little carried away. Dortmund at their peak are a brilliant side with a great blend of defensive strength and attacking merit.

I don't think 70-80% is entirely fair, not if Dortmund were at 40-50%. That said, I do think Dortmund would be any sensible persons favourite, as they should be against the vast majority of teams.
 
No but I would say that Arsenal perhaps played at 70-80% and Dortmund at about 40-50%. I'm not saying Arsenal can't beat them but all things considered I think Arsenal are still big underdogs. I always like to see Arsenal do well and I like their style of play but I think some people are getting a little carried away. Dortmund at their peak are a brilliant side with a great blend of defensive strength and attacking merit.

I see what you mean but I think we did make silly mistakes before costing. Dortmund are good and play good football, and are currently second in their league I believe but a lot of people also didn't think we'd beat Liverpool (at least those I spoke with didn't). I think though you do need abit of "luck" when playing these sorts of games in champions league and its not about just playing good football and having a strong team. :)
 
I see what you mean but I think we did make silly mistakes before costing. Dortmund are good and play good football, and are currently second in their league I believe but a lot of people also didn't think we'd beat Liverpool (at least those I spoke with didn't). I think though you do need abit of "luck" when playing these sorts of games in champions league and its not about just playing good football and having a strong team. :)

Liverpool gifted you that game (partially through injuries and partly through formation) and not helped by Saurez's goal not being given

You were very fortunate in getting those three points.
 
Liverpool gifted you that game (partially through injuries and partly through formation) and not helped by Saurez's goal not being given

You were very fortunate in getting those three points.

As said before you need abit of luck with the champions league games, but this also extends to the Premier League! We still got the 3 points though, I could care less whether its nice flowing football or a dirty win - 3 points is 3 points :)
 
Think the City game could be pretty tasty this eve with the slanging match that's been going on between the two sides. I predict a red card at some point in the game.
 
Juve v Real just isn't a fixture like it used to be.

It'll still probably be my pick for what game to watch tonight tho, simply for the history.
 
Liverpool gifted you that game (partially through injuries and partly through formation) and not helped by Saurez's goal not being given

You were very fortunate in getting those three points.

I thought we were the much better side for most of the game and deserved the win. Not a lot fortunate about it.
 
Liverpool gifted you that game (partially through injuries and partly through formation) and not helped by Saurez's goal not being given

You were very fortunate in getting those three points.

Fortunate? It was 2-0.

Arsenal beat the team that was in front of them, no fortune involved.
 
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