UK court to unmask 'file-sharers'

Morba · 2 Feb 2006 at 17:43

its quite clear that a few people here do not take normal precautions even on things like irc.

go look up proxys etc.

oldbag · 2 Feb 2006 at 17:56

A proxy isn't any more safe, the logs on the proxy can detect who connects to it.

MNuTz · 2 Feb 2006 at 18:07

Triad2000 said:
A proxy isn't any more safe, the logs on the proxy can detect who connects to it.

But that depends on how secure the proxy is....

Goes and digs out my copy of Uplink

oldbag · 2 Feb 2006 at 18:10

If there is logging enabled on the proxy, all the source IP's will be logged... There's no such thing as being anonymous on the Internet.

ScarySquirrel · 2 Feb 2006 at 18:13

is this just P2P stuff or would it be for using newsleecher as well?

oldbag · 2 Feb 2006 at 18:17

For anything which you do not own the copyright, or have the permission to distribute. The medium is irrelevant.

Noxis · 2 Feb 2006 at 19:27

nick_cfc said:
is this just P2P stuff or would it be for using newsleecher as well?

If you upload - yes.

Noxis · 2 Feb 2006 at 19:33

Jagen said:
The TOS covers the agreement between you and your service provider, I don't see how it can infer legal liability onto you in this situation.
Consider that in some situations now the court order has been granted the data on who was leasing the IP in question may have been deleted, and the ISP can not identify and end user, FAST are not going to sue the ISP for something that happened on their network but was not under their direct control, how different is that from the end user whose connection was hijacked (either being open or cracked) and used to download software, and whose router does not log sufficient information to allow them to try and identify the machine responsible?

Its your connection therefore your responsibility - the ISP wont give two hoots. You will be in court defending and attempting to prove that you had secured your network but it had been cracked/hacked.

HaX · 2 Feb 2006 at 20:14

One thing I would like to know is that if you asked, would your ISP tell you whether or not your details had been passed on to an enforcement agency.

Surely under the data protection act, they would be required to provide information relevant to yourself as and when requested.

derfderfley · 3 Feb 2006 at 10:55

HaX said:
One thing I would like to know is that if you asked, would your ISP tell you whether or not your details had been passed on to an enforcement agency.

Not automaticaly.

HaX said:
Surely under the data protection act, they would be required to provide information relevant to yourself as and when requested.

Yup, as and when requested.

bam0 · 3 Feb 2006 at 11:09

Noxis said:
Its your connection therefore your responsibility - the ISP wont give two hoots.

That great, I never said they would.

The part you quoted from me was in response to someone who seemed to think breach of contract was a criminal affair.