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The Halk said:
That's rubbish. Just simply rubbish.
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Wow, that's some excellent reasoning you have there, nice to see the sources too ^^

Its not hard, if you order something from an EU country then you don't pay VAT as its already had sales tax applied by the country its come from, if you order something from a non EU country (Canada, USA, Japan, Australia, etc) then you have to pay customs charges inc VAT (currently 20%, and that's on the total price not pre shipping).
 
ubersonic said:
Wow, that's some excellent reasoning you have there, nice to see the sources too ^^

Its not hard, if you order something from an EU country then you don't pay VAT as its already had sales tax applied by the country its come from, if you order something from a non EU country (Canada, USA, Japan, Australia, etc) then you have to pay customs charges inc VAT (currently 20%, and that's on the total price not pre shipping).
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I don't need to cite sources to say something is rubbish, you need to cite sources to say it's going to happen.

I could say that leaving the EU would mean we all got free apples, every day. I wouldn't expect you to cite sources to disprove it.

You do pay VAT ordering from the EU, at approx the same level as you pay in the UK. We have agreements within the EU that we don't charge it twice. If we left the EU then instead of paying 19% German VAT or 21% whatever else you'd pay 20% UK VAT. You've already had that explained in more detail.
 
ubersonic said:
Ahh I see, but while it wouldn't increase the cost to the end buyer of our exports it would still increase the cost of our imports (and by more than 20% because the would be extra charges to pay) this would be a problem because the is just some stuff you can't get in the UK.
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No it woudn't because while you are applying VAT to the import, the supplier is not applying their equivalent to the Export.....in the same way that we do not apply our VAT to products we export to the US, they do not apply ST to products they export to the UK.....

In any case you do not charge or get charged VAT/ST twice regardless of the country of origin.

Countries are, as a rule, encouraged to make their exports as cheap as possible with regard to tax liabilities, so you will find that your products will cost the same regardless of the status of the UK within the EU, in fact given that some of the VAT rates in the EU are substanially higher than the UK it might make some EU markets cheaper.

Some countries have Tariffs applied to exports/imports to certain territories or to certain goods, however, as pointed out there are hundreds of individually agreed Free Trade Agreements globally and we could potentially join any of them, including the NAFTA and the EFTA which would, if you export/import to/from both the EU and North America actually make your business potentially more profitable. If the proposed TFFA comes into operation then that would also be a valid trade agreement to which the UK would be eligible to join.

ubersonic said:
I cited a link previously to the UK customs website that explains how it works.
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Unfortunately it doesn't actually support your misconception of how import liabilities are applied.
 
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ubersonic said:
I cited a link previously to the UK customs website that explains how it works.
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It doesn't work like that though, Castiel has explained it again... I'm not sure how else to say it.

Instead of paying 23% Irish VAT as it is now when buying something from Ireland we will pay 20% British VAT.
 
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