Unacceptable Behaviour from Insurer

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Hi all,

My friend was involved in a fault accident writing off his car.

His insurers made him an offer which he rejected as there was nothing on Auto Trader similar for that amount. The offer was around £500 short of what would be considered a fair offer. £3300 when £3750-£4000 would get him a like for like replacement. Plus an additional fee to have his dual controls installed in a new vehicle.

His insurers said he had to put his rejection and justification in a letter along with his current MOT and V5.

He wrote a clear letter rejecting their offer. Proposing what he thought it was worth with evidence from Auto Trader and quotes for dual controls installation (driving instructor with "specialist insurance").

He explicitly wrote that he has included his V5 as requested but this is by no means acceptance of the insurers offer and therefore the V5 has not been signed.

He has already had to hassle his insurers at every stage and passed from pillar to post. He sent the letter recorded so knew it had been received and finally spoke to somebody almost a week after this letter was received.

The lady on the phone said she had just dealt with his case and a cheque was in the post. He queried this asking if the letter had been read which she said yes.

She said they are sending a cheque for £3300 and the V5 back as require his signature.

The lady said they would send a further cheque at a later stage for additional compensation to "save time".

He questioned how this process would save time which was met with an aggressive non-answer from the lady.

He asked to speak to the valuers directly which was not possible at this time.

He finished the call by saying he will not be cashing the cheque or returning the v5 until speaking with the valuers.


I think this stinks? If he cashes the cheque and sends the v5 back he won't be getting another penny out of them. How are they able to operate like this?

How would you proceed in this matter?

TIA.
 
That's the process my insurer is going through. Basically they sent a "Glasses Guide" cheque for the car. Then any mods or further justified value is claimed afterwards.

But then they did value my mods at 20% of what they're worth as per receipts.
 
If my friend sends a signed v5 and cashes the cheque he has nothing to ensure they pay up more.
 
With insurance it's all about (saddly) playing the game, front lines job is to stone wall and hope you go away. If your friend is getting no where with them ask to be elevated, if they can't do that straight away get them to log the call and ring you back.

He / she must keep a log of every call, when and what time, name of person they are speaking to and a summery of what was said.

If after all that your still not getting anywhere tell them you would like some advice on referring the case to the ombudsman. They are duty bound to guide you through the process of referral, but more often than not it's elevated to a manager first at this point for review and you will get resolution.

Play the game, it's a pita but it's what's required.
 
Play the game, it's a pita but it's what's required.

Not really, the game ends when you tell them after about 2 weeks "I've had enough of your BS, unless this is sorted by 3 days time I am writing a formal letter of complaint to the FSA/Financial Ombudsman"
They generally sort it out the very next day that way.
 
The 2 - 3 weeks are the game,your playing it. You don't have to write to the ombudsman yourself they are duty bound to guide you through the process, however you need to be able to prove that you have acted reasonable and explored every avenue to get resolution. It's no good saying to the first person you speak to "right that's it I'm off to the ombudsman" because you will get no where with them.

In the several times I've had to do this (not car related) the claim has been resolved at managerial review stage which they claim to be an internal "last" review of the case before they refer themselves on your behalf. And yes like you say, I've come off the phone at 4pm and had a cheque on the mat the next day. We had this with our honeymoon to New Orleans that was during katrina, axa insurance (through m&s) told us to cancel everything and claim of our insurance, that was their advice to us, they then refused the claim outright due to us cancelling and not even attempting to travel, this was despite not having an airport to land at. They lied to us and said they hadn't told us to cancel, during a last ditch call I heard the bit about all calls being recorded and under data protection laws we requested a copy of our call on the day in question. The case was instantly elevated where we were told they had lost the recording and as a good will gesture they would pay us in full. We received a cheque the very next day.
 
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I had a similar thing around 7 years ago. Car was worth about £10k. They offered arpound £6k. I argued like hell, sending in copies of exchange and mart, etc. Got it up to £10k so I thought I'd chance my arm and threaten to sue them... got nearly £11k in the end :D

Unfortunately the OP's friend has sent in the V5 whihc makes things slightly harder. But whatever happens don't sign it. Send a recorded delivery letter stating that no agreement has yet been reached (keep the cheque but do not cash it). Then go to the ombudsman. Then take to court if necessary.

In all insurance matters, deal with it by recorded delivery post and keep a copy of all letters.
 
That's the process my insurer is going through. Basically they sent a "Glasses Guide" cheque for the car. Then any mods or further justified value is claimed afterwards.

But then they did value my mods at 20% of what they're worth as per receipts.


Was the initial payment based on GG Trade or Retail book price ?
 
I'm in the process of disputing an extremely low valuation on my Supra. They sent me an initial cheque with a covering note + email to say that it was only partial settlement (I had already made it clear that I wouldn't be accepting it as full payment based on the value).

I got an professional independent assessment by a 3rd party done on the car for a pre-accident value and I'm writing them a covering letter + enclosing copy of the report for re-evaulation by the insurer. This report did cost, mind.
 
Was the initial payment based on GG Trade or Retail book price ?

I was relatively happy with the payment - put it that way. So I can assume it was done on a Retail figure. I did ask a dealer how much he would have given me as a part/ex and that figure was 2-3k lower.
 
although the insurance companies will do their upmost to keep with FSA/FSO regulations, just because someone states "i've had enough, im taking you to the FSA/FSO" doesnt mean the insurance companies will change their procedure unless they have done something massively wrong. But on the otherside you could go through the whole rigma of written complaint/FSA/FSO complaint and then be told " they are correct in what they are doing"
 
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