unaccepted into the uni i wanted, alternatives?

Deiwos · 23 Feb 2007 at 18:43

When you say you want to 'make games' do you mean the programming side of development, or the level design etc? Thats for addy btw.

Chrisss · 23 Feb 2007 at 18:43

addy_010 said:
i cant simply go back as the subjects are stuff i didn't and never will want to do and i'd have to do all the course work, for instance higher level biology, TOK (how you know you know you know was a paper we had to right), Spanish, ITGS (i know its on computers buit this course didn't need be on computers, it was so boring and about stuff like ethical reasons of allwoing msn in work place).

With an attitude like this I doubt you'd get through 3/4 years of computer science anyway.

Deiwos · 23 Feb 2007 at 18:50

Actually having read what addy said earlier, I agree with Chrisss. I'm doing Computer Science atm, and I've gotta say it's pretty damn boring for the most part. a lot of work feels pointless at times, and the workload itself is monstrous.

Zefan · 23 Feb 2007 at 18:52

I'm doing a foundation year for the same thing as you, going in to Games Tech hopefully.

Foundation will cost you a lot of money (3k) and won't be fun so do consider doing a levels again, I know it's something I should have done.

Rabble0 · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:31

[TW]Fox said:
You should have done some research before you applied, a year of 'self training' is utterly worthless and as you've found, pointless at getting into Uni. You should have used that year to improve your grades.

But dont worry, you still can. Go back to college, get better AS/A levels, then go to Uni

This is the best bet. Go college then Uni

ninja economist · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:36

I'd say you're too thick to go to University. But a casual look around the students of today would lead me to think otherwise

YEAH BSc HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT

trojan698 · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:39

Rich43 · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:40

Hi,

I do computer programming for a living. I work at home for an american company, I modify/expand billing systems, joomla, e-commerce etc for our clients..

It is not underpaid if you go freelance or start your own business. I get £10 a hour and some people charge more than we do!

I say you forget uni and go freelance.. as long as you dont mind sitting around at home

Many famous people like Richard Branson never needed a uni degree.

Thanks!

[TW]Fox · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:44

ninja economist said:
YEAH BSc HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT

Aside from the fact I can't think of a more dull and boring subject than that, what exactly is wrong with that as a degree? It's at least half useful which is more than can be said for Surfing with optional David Beckham studies.

ninja economist · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:49

[TW]Fox said:
Aside from the fact I can't think of a more dull and boring subject than that, what exactly is wrong with that as a degree? It's at least half useful which is more than can be said for Surfing with optional David Beckham studies.

#1 - It sounds like a BTEC
#2 - It's not a Classic
#3 - It's too specialized
#4 - It can be better practiced through professional diplomas which cost a lot less and look better
#5 - Employers would rather employ an Economics/Accountant/Law/Psychology student for such a job due to the broad range of knowledge in the Social sciences
#6 - Secretaries are Human Resource Managers, same as people who tell everyone they "work in payroll"
#7 - I wouldn't waste 3k a year on it, would you?
#8 - People actually believe the University prospectus and think that this will lead them on the road to being a HR Manager, god forbid.

All in all, it should be taught at a College - Not at a University. More target setting to make sure more underachievers go to University to keep the figures up.

Posty · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:53

I guess ninja economist went to the best Uni in the world

ninja economist · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:54

Posty said:
I guess ninja economist went to the best Uni in the world

No

Scuzi · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:55

Posty said:
I guess ninja economist went to the best Uni in the world

He's at Queens of Belfast don't you know. A fine establishment if I ever seen one.
Not to mention that gaff in Strasbourg and the one in Toronto.

Posh fag he is...

Psyk · 23 Feb 2007 at 20:55

Rich43 said:
Hi,

I do computer programming for a living. I work at home for an american company, I modify/expand billing systems, joomla, e-commerce etc for our clients..

It is not underpaid if you go freelance or start your own business. I get £10 a hour and some people charge more than we do!

Programming games is a whole different kettle of fish though. It is generally underpaid and overworked.

Sometimes when I say I want to be a games programmer they assume that means I'll be able to work from home. But that's really not the way the way it goes in the games industry. It really wouldn't work in most cases.

unwashed potato! · 23 Feb 2007 at 21:30

Deiwos said:
When you say you want to 'make games' do you mean the programming side of development, or the level design etc? Thats for addy btw.

the programming side is what i'd most like to do, though level making doesn't sound that bad either.

chrisss said:
With an attitude like this I doubt you'd get through 3/4 years of computer science anyway.

the thing is though if i did manage to get into uni and found it very boring, i'd still be motivated as its what i want very much to do, unlike in school it was boring, and unmotivating as i knew for sure that what i was doing was not what i wanted to do.

I have also grown a lot since then, im only 18 so big changes are being made, i have got this thurst to work non stop in my free time but aslong as i feel its towards my career.

[TW]Fox · 23 Feb 2007 at 23:19

ninja economist said:
#1 - It sounds like a BTEC

So what?

#2 - It's not a Classic

So what? Neither is anything IT related..

#3 - It's too specialized

If your dream job is to be director of HR, it's as specialized as it needs to be. Leaving aside the chronic dullness surrounding anyone who aspires to work in HR

#5 - Employers would rather employ an Economics/Accountant/Law/Psychology student for such a job due to the broad range of knowledge in the Social sciences

This depends entirely on the position in question.

#6 - Secretaries are Human Resource Managers

No, they are not.

#7 - I wouldn't waste 3k a year on it, would you?

Nope, I wouldn't even do it if you paid me £3k a year. But there is more to Uni than just offering a course you or I would like.

ninja economist · 23 Feb 2007 at 23:32

[TW]Fox said:
So what?

So why not do a BTEC? It's cheaper

So what? Neither is anything IT related..

That's true, but CompSci is somewhat established

If your dream job is to be director of HR, it's as specialized as it needs to be. Leaving aside the chronic dullness surrounding anyone who aspires to work in HR

Most university course pamphlets promise graduates jobs in those areas with weird and wacky salaries that you just don't get, especially not for HR Management - Too many people do courses related to management, and studying how someone else managed this or that is not the way forward.

This depends entirely on the position in question.

Yes it does, and in general a degree in the classical, established social sciences looks a lot better than a specialist one. The person can always be trained/get professional qualifications for a lot cheaper

No, they are not.

You're right, they'd probably do a better job though come to think of it

Nope, I wouldn't even do it if you paid me £3k a year. But there is more to Uni than just offering a course you or I would like.

Yes, there is. But University is an investment in your own future, and very few people look at it that way. You go to University to get employed, so the student should do a subject that is going to get them employed.

Starfall · 24 Feb 2007 at 00:16

Anyone who desires a career in HR should be led out and shot

I agree with the foundation year idea, don't resit A-levels, they're pointless anyway, once you're in, you're in.

At the moment i think you need to do all you can to get "in"

soleside · 24 Feb 2007 at 02:38

Not just foundation years, also have a look at foundation degrees. They're 2 year courses with the option of doing the final year of a related degree to top up your qualification. I only have 5 GCSE's from '93 and I was awarded a place on a Network Security Technologies F/D here in Sunderland. I'm sure I saw a few gaming related F/D's while looking for my course.