Uni house - Network and ISP Suggestions please!

TheVoice · 15 Jun 2006 at 14:20

Sounds like you're going to have CAT5 cables all over the place! Are you sure wireless isn't a better option? More expensive certainly, but less hassle too, and there's no reason for it to be slow or unsecure.

Nathan · 15 Jun 2006 at 14:58

In our house,

ADSL 8 Meg Nildram
DG834G
4 people connect by wire
4 people connect by wireless
Firewall set up so the other 7 can only use http, msn, etc so no p2p or torrent usage

apart from me

but I know how to limit it so it does not effect other people. Shame the other 7 have no clue. Works very nicely and we dont get any lag/hold up what so ever. Had a few ppl moaning that limewire etc does not work, but you just blame it on their pc's.

Andelusion · 15 Jun 2006 at 17:55

Thanks for the tips guys, meh we'll be tidy with cables. One of my chums who's just spent a year in a house of similar build experienced loads of problems with wireless and don't really fancy the possibility of all the hassle tbh.

Stripe · 16 Jun 2006 at 01:14

I'm just about to move out of a house in hyde park. just going to say, if you sign up early, make sure you get the 9 month student deal rather than getting a full year contract (unless that's what you want)

Andelusion · 16 Jun 2006 at 01:35

It'll have to be a full year deal since one of us will have to move in during July.

locutus12 · 16 Jun 2006 at 04:47

Andelusion said:
Ok, NTL it is then.

Can anyone give any hardware tips? I really have no idea. Thanks..

you can buy a wireless dongle for each pc, they are about £15 pounds each give or take. they plug into a usb socket and act as a wireless network card, or if everyone in the house doesnt mind, you can buy wireless network cards for about £14 a pop now, fit one in each PC, configure the ip addys and make sure you use something like WEP to secure your network, you dont want the students next door logging on and steeling bandwidth.

personally though, wireless networks at the moment are more of a "trendy gimmick" than a dependable system, theres still too many problems with the system itself and it can be a real headache. For reliabillity i would use a Wired network.

p.s. i used to work for NTL, if your a student, you can get a 9 month contract. but dont tell them your planning to share out the connection, whilst NTL doesnt say you cant do it, they dont like it when you do

(or at least they didnt when i was there...)

p.s. you can think me for your cheap NTL broadband cost... long story which i got £££0 out of.

#Chri5# · 16 Jun 2006 at 16:43

ErNciLator said:
Go for modem

-> ADSL Router ->

1GBit Switch (8port+)->

Computers

The router, aslong as it's a good one, mb a Cisco or so, will sort the switch for you. Make sure the switch has a good backbone.

Good backbone? It's a house of stoooooodent bums, not an enterprise server farm

Andelusion · 17 Jun 2006 at 23:43

Howdo again just a final question, if we get this switch: DELETED COMPETITOR LINKand use the router we'll presumably be provided with by NTL should this be hunky dory? Just want to double check, Ta.

Burbleflop · 17 Jun 2006 at 23:50

ntl won't give you a router - they'll give you a modem. Have a look at a Linksys WRT54GS (or GL) for all your routing needs.

Andelusion · 18 Jun 2006 at 00:06

Oh aye I meant modem :rolleyes:

Burbleflop · 18 Jun 2006 at 00:07

Fair enough. You'll still need a router though, just plugging a switch into the ethernet port on the modem isn't gonna help. Ntl only give you one IP address so unless you're using a layer 3 or greater switch you'll have problems.

tolien · 18 Jun 2006 at 00:13

You might want to double check the rules for this forum too, especially the competitor ones.

Andelusion · 18 Jun 2006 at 00:59

Oh **** I usually do so well with following the rules too

Thanks for the help...so I'll need a router too

tsinc80697 · 18 Jul 2006 at 15:23

this thread definitely helps me with what im gonna do in september when i move into a house with 3 uni mates

But if i have a belkin 4 port cable gateway router, can i daisy chain this or would i have to use it between the ntl modem and a switch?

RobH · 18 Jul 2006 at 23:45

tsinc80697 said:
this thread definitely helps me with what im gonna do in september when i move into a house with 3 uni mates

But if i have a belkin 4 port cable gateway router, can i daisy chain this or would i have to use it between the ntl modem and a switch?

You don't need a gateway, just a broadband router will do. You have to keep the cable modem, there isn't an option there. You connect the modem to the "broadband" port on the router then hook all the computers to the built in switch on the router. Gateways are generally routers with built in DSL modems, cable genrally requires you to keep the modem they give you.

tsinc80697 · 19 Jul 2006 at 00:05

oh yeah i know i have to keep the modem, was just stating the name of the router.

think im gonna for modem > linux server > switch > pcs

Burbleflop · 19 Jul 2006 at 07:58

RobH said:
You don't need a gateway, just a broadband router will do. You have to keep the cable modem, there isn't an option there. You connect the modem to the "broadband" port on the router then hook all the computers to the built in switch on the router. Gateways are generally routers with built in DSL modems, cable genrally requires you to keep the modem they give you.

Gateway = Router, irrespective of what WAN port they have.

A[L]C · 19 Jul 2006 at 11:09

how about the network through power socket kits you can get? dunno anything about them though