Personally I'd just pay it, it's not much money and while they may strugle to legally enforce it they can refuse to let you graduate while money owed to them is outstanding. Learn from this lesson, playing loud music in a resedential area is neither big nor clever, to have the council out it would have to have happened on more than one occasion so I suggest that you are lucky.
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I haven't had time to go and see them as I'm frantically revising for another exam tomorrow.
They have a street representative who reports any complaints to the university. The police cannot pass on information as it's none of the university's business.
The problem is I live in an area was has been ruined by students. It was traditionally an affluent area. Now the students have come along and brought the chaos with them, making the area difficult for the majority of the residents. My music is a prime example.
Whilst I respect this and am willing to listen to the police if any trouble occurs. I do not see why the university think they have the right to try and regulate the area, especially when there are community police who do this already.
Next year we will not be registering our new address with the university unless they specifically request it. I pay those ******* thousands of pounds a year to provide an education, not to play the role of the police.
They have a street representative who reports any complaints to the university. The police cannot pass on information as it's none of the university's business.
The problem is I live in an area was has been ruined by students. It was traditionally an affluent area. Now the students have come along and brought the chaos with them, making the area difficult for the majority of the residents. My music is a prime example.
Whilst I respect this and am willing to listen to the police if any trouble occurs. I do not see why the university think they have the right to try and regulate the area, especially when there are community police who do this already.
Next year we will not be registering our new address with the university unless they specifically request it. I pay those ******* thousands of pounds a year to provide an education, not to play the role of the police.
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Then why do people receive ASBO's for it?
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The university are trying to regulate it so the 90% of students who are well behaved respect both there neighbours and there neighbourhoods don't get labelled with the sae idiot brush that you have been. I would fully support any university taking this stance aferall they are responsible for the massive influx of young people into the area so they should take some responsibility for the problems it can cause. Personally I would like to see the universities, student landlords, the police and the local council working together much more effectively on issues like this as it would benefit not only the long term local residents but also the mojority of students who just want to enjoy themselves sensibly and get there degrees.
You will have to supply a term time address when you register, obviously you could register a false address but that would be up to you. Persoanlly I just think this is sour grapes as you thought you'd got away with a cop out appology and your now fealing hard done by because the uni have asked you for less money then you proably spent last time you were out on the lash.
PS I'm not some student hating jobs worth, I was a student for nearly a decade and never once had the police or concil called despite having the time of my life.
I had a similar thing a few years back. Basically, I used to sit in my room and have music on. Now i'm not inconsiderate, I checked myself by walking around that it wasn't carrying outside the room. With the door closed it was inaudible.
However this didn't matter to the jobsworth officer living at the end of my hall (a good twenty doors away). Apparantly he could hear it and that was that. I tried to prove to him that it wasn't me by testing to see if he could tell when it was on or not. One night I got woken up at 1am by him ranting that I was "keeping him up". How am I doing that with everything switched off, in a dark room, in bed?
In the end I got a letter telling me I had a "meeting" with the head of halls about it. I went around my floor, the one above, and the one below, and got near a hundred signatures saying that nobody had ever found it a nuisance. I got the two people either side of my room to come to the meeting to back me up.
And despite hearing all this, that same "officer" (who was one of the people in the meeting) was aggressive and adamant that I was totally in the wrong. The result? They fined me £60 for it.
One trip to the CAB later and the ******* recinded it. He also opened himself up for a whole load of trouble as well, it turns out that students don't take kindly to this kind of thing.
The summary? Fight it. The Uni are probably just trying to make a quick buck like everyone else, don't damn well let them.
However this didn't matter to the jobsworth officer living at the end of my hall (a good twenty doors away). Apparantly he could hear it and that was that. I tried to prove to him that it wasn't me by testing to see if he could tell when it was on or not. One night I got woken up at 1am by him ranting that I was "keeping him up". How am I doing that with everything switched off, in a dark room, in bed?
In the end I got a letter telling me I had a "meeting" with the head of halls about it. I went around my floor, the one above, and the one below, and got near a hundred signatures saying that nobody had ever found it a nuisance. I got the two people either side of my room to come to the meeting to back me up.
And despite hearing all this, that same "officer" (who was one of the people in the meeting) was aggressive and adamant that I was totally in the wrong. The result? They fined me £60 for it.
One trip to the CAB later and the ******* recinded it. He also opened himself up for a whole load of trouble as well, it turns out that students don't take kindly to this kind of thing.
The summary? Fight it. The Uni are probably just trying to make a quick buck like everyone else, don't damn well let them.
The difference is that case is ridiculous as you were extremely considerate.
I on the other hand came home drunk at 3am and put my speakers on full volume. I'm completely in the wrong. The issue is whether it is right the university can issue fines.
Be grateful it's only a fine and some local didn't knock you out, not saying it's right but you wouldn't be the first idiot student to get a slap off a tired warehouse worker at 3am.
Where was that, Auschwitz university?
Should have sued the university for kicking them out without being convicted.
As for the op, pay it you chav.
Don't send it, end of. Just pay up like a man, we all make mistakes in life it's how we react to them and what we learn from them that counts.
I will not man up and pay up. It takes me 5 hours to earn the money to pay that fine. I don't want to be a bratt I just want honest proof that the university can do what they're doing. Final version... is that OK or do I sould a bit snobish?
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Cheers,
How would you like it if you were paying £90 a week to rent a private house and your university thinks they have the right to punish you for what happens within that property.
I really would appreciate proof that they have the legal right to do that. It is the bloody Police's job ffs.
Don't be stupid, it's not a university matter.
Its like going to away on holiday, getting drunk then getting fined by univirsity for it.
It's a police matter, stick up for your rights and ideals. If you don't they will slip away over the decades.
I would have no problem if it was a police fine.
Perhaps those 5 hours would help you to reflect on what you've done and maybe next time you come home at 3am ****** up you will think twice before you reach for the volume dial? Your inability to take responsibility for your actions says wonders about your character.
I said earlier that there is no way this is your first complaint as the council won't send anyone out for a single incident.
If I was the University official that recieved that 'letter' I'd write the corrections on it in red pen and send it back with a little note saying must try harder.
As I have said before in this thread, the Univeristy has a responsibility to the communities that it 'inflicts' students on. They cannot expect to not be held responsible for the behaviour of there students, so they get all students to sign up to a code of conduct which they are expected to adhere to. The OP failed to adhere to the code of conduct and the University have instigated diciplinary proceedings the result of which is a fine. They are perfectly entitled to do this if it is in the code of conduct that was agreed to by the students when they enrolled. Now get off your human rights soap box and turn your stereo down.
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The issue here is not about whether I'm in the right or the wrong, it's about whether the university have the legal right to issue fines. Threatening to kick that person out the university is acceptable, issuing fines is not.
I knew a guy who got into a serious fight with someone. He smashed their window and got arrested by the police. A week later the window had been repaired, he had paid for it and they residents were all friends again. Case closed. Had the university got involved, that poor bloke would probably have been chucked off his course and fined.
They are nothing more than a bunch of mini-Hitlers. Leave the job of enforcing law to the police, thank you.
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I think you need to see a therapist. You blatantly have a problem with authority figures.
It isn't just universities, a lot of companies would intervene too. But the university has a duty to uphold the moral standing of its students, including... you.
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