University advice

Going to start uni soon and I just want some advice/heads up as to what to expect or how to cope when the going gets tough.

Have mixed emotions at the moment, excited that I'm moving on but also slightly nervous as to whether I'll be able to cope with the workload and new surroundings and etc.

You will easily be able to cope with workload, especially in first year, don't worry about it. In fact you may become so relaxed about the academic part that it may fade int second place and you will slowly fall behind(won't put as much effort as it's easy), don't do that, remember to put extra effort. I can't stress that enough, don't let academic side fall behind, 2:1 is a bare minimum you need to get.

New surroundings may feel scary at first but it's really not, it's extremely liberating. Make sure to live in halls / with friends, if you live in halls make sure to make friends and then together rent a house next year. Don't be afraid to make friends, everybody there is in the same position and all look to make friends. Join social clubs, sports acitivites and enjoy.

There's a reason most people say uni was the best part of their lives, you will most certainly enjoy it. GL HF
 
You will easily be able to cope with workload, especially in first year, don't worry about it. In fact you may become so relaxed about the academic part that it may fade int second place and you will slowly fall behind(won't put as much effort as it's easy), don't do that, remember to put extra effort. I can't stress that enough, don't let academic side fall behind, 2:1 is a bare minimum you need to get.

New surroundings may feel scary at first but it's really not, it's extremely liberating. Make sure to live in halls / with friends, if you live in halls make sure to make friends and then together rent a house next year. Don't be afraid to make friends, everybody there is in the same position and all look to make friends. Join social clubs, sports acitivites and enjoy.

There's a reason most people say uni was the best part of their lives, you will most certainly enjoy it. GL HF

I'm living in halls for the first year, did have second thoughts with it being £130 a week. Which is almost London prices, but being outside London Student finance don't give you any more.

They give someone who is living up north with £80 a week rent the same maintenance loan as someone that is living south with £130 a week rent.

Also GL HF (Get Laid Have Fun?)
 
You doing a masters at the moment then?

Nah, just going into my second year at UoB. Been working a lot over summer and plan to keep up as much as possible during term time. Will probably burn out after a couple of months of non stop work and effort ahah.

My honest big suggestion? Be sad and make a spreadsheet of all your money. It'll do you wonders. I ended first year (having only had a job for the final 3 months of it) with over £1000 extra in savings. I went out a LOT, talking 4 times a week during second term, and 2 or 3 in the others, and still ended up with much better finances than others. Students do not, in general, have a clue what they are doing with money. I never got handouts from the parents but was much better off than those that did, just through having some financial plan ahaha.
 
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Wow... *swoon*. I presume you're an epic academic high flier, then? Are you dominating Oxbridge, or something? I mean, exemplary grades must mean you're somewhere special :cool:.
Are you trying to say you can't have academic high flyers at non redbricks?

You also assume I didn't have enough UCAS points to go elsewhere. I did, but I wasn't the man I am today when choosing universities and decided to go for a place where I liked the town, wasn't fussed about the quality of university, back then as far as I was concerned it didn't matter.
Criteria - no busy cities or anything like that, decent music scene, near the coast.
 
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Not the dreaded 2.1! I have never seen anywhere advertise for first class degrees only (they probably do exist somewhere) - even a 2.2 doesn't mean game over.

They do exist. I was on holiday with a friend who had applied for a job requiring a 1st (he had a 2:1 but from the best uni in the country for the course) and he flew back home to attend a interview and he got the job. Point to the story? Go to the best uni you can get into?
 
Thats a given, I've seen firms advertise for thirds and up. A first is always going to be preferable however and key to securing the best graduate positions.

Aside from exemplary grades, I've worked this summer for a top 500 super brands company in a relevant position, last summer I worked for a local marketing department. It's all experience most graduates do not have.

I have been writing an extensively researched paper on product positioning and neurology for the past 4 months, at a level well above what is expected of masters students and even some PhD candidates, which has received high praise from PhD level professors.

I have a portfolio of freelance work I have done, pro bono, nothing significant but it's work nonetheless.

I play 5 musical instruments at graded levels (2 at grade 8, others varying levels). Something which employers seem to love.

Tell me then, smarty pants, how does that not set me apart from your average "Kevin from hull with a 2:1"

YOU'LL get a shock when you get to work in the real world!

I've seen LOADS of people just like you. They think they're all that, but they aren't as good as they think they are. Straight out of university and think they know it all. They don't.

There are some people, who don't blow their own trumpets, who are wayyyy better than you will ever be. They might not have the qualifications or the obviously privileged lifestyle you have (presumably because of your parents), but they have experience or knowledge that can't be transferred through academia.

Just remember that.
 
Pretty much every firm I am prepared to work for (and theres a fair amount to be fair) is less than 5 miles from my house, all of which have exceptional track records for taking on graduates, decent salaries and high functioning marketing departments.

I've got to admit to some curiosity here - what's a high functioning marketing department? All sorts of bad jokes about the abilities of marketing come to mind and I'm sure that's not what you meant.

You will easily be able to cope with workload, especially in first year, don't worry about it. In fact you may become so relaxed about the academic part that it may fade int second place and you will slowly fall behind(won't put as much effort as it's easy), don't do that, remember to put extra effort. I can't stress that enough, don't let academic side fall behind, 2:1 is a bare minimum you need to get.

While it's a good idea to keep up with work as far as you can it's perhaps worth finding out how your prior year marks contribute towards your final degree classification - in my case it made no difference whatsoever provided I got sufficient marks to move on to the next year.

I'm not saying it's a good plan to do the bare minimum as there's no guarantee that you'll be able to pull it out and get the degree you want without the foundation work in the earlier years. However it's almost always a good idea to have some concept of what is needed, that way if you find you've got to play the game of targeting results you know when and what you need to do.
 
Thats a given, I've seen firms advertise for thirds and up. A first is always going to be preferable however and key to securing the best graduate positions.

Aside from exemplary grades, I've worked this summer for a top 500 super brands company in a relevant position, last summer I worked for a local marketing department. It's all experience most graduates do not have.

I have been writing an extensively researched paper on product positioning and neurology for the past 4 months, at a level well above what is expected of masters students and even some PhD candidates, which has received high praise from PhD level professors.

I have a portfolio of freelance work I have done, pro bono, nothing significant but it's work nonetheless.

I play 5 musical instruments at graded levels (2 at grade 8, others varying levels). Something which employers seem to love.

Tell me then, smarty pants, how does that not set me apart from your average "Kevin from hull with a 2:1"

You're not competing against Kevin, your competing against thousands of people who have the exactly the same as you, but do go to the top establishments.

I've got friends who:
Have done multiple internships for for major companies in this country and abroad.
Hold down £30k P/A jobs part time whilst still getting firsts.
Get invited to do summer research at Ivy league universities.
Did postgraduate level research during after only one year of university.
Have articles about themselves printed in business times, manage 6 figure portfolios and run societies.


How do you differentiate yourself then? Unless of course you find a job which requites you to play music.
 
Ridiculous because I plan for good employment on graduation?

People go to uni then come out and worry about a job, and wonder why no one will employ them. Because you ****ed it up the wall for three years and have a 2:1 or a 2:2 and no experience, no factors to set you apart.

I'm not stupid enough to get sucked into that trap, they're all kids, the lot of them with. I've not come to university to do a pointless course like "drama" or "media studies" no, I've come to do business and for one reason, I want to make money.

I've researched the firms I want to work for, what they look for, what would be in my favour. Typical paths of the graduates within the firm.

Uum I hope you realise that the 'real' university staff and students think business degrees and management-type courses are a joke. You are either at a sub-standard university that 'specialises' in business-type degrees because it is academically weak, or you are at a top-uni that has a business school as a cynical strategy to rake in huge fees from international students, trading on the university brand. I wouldn't look down on drama or media studies when you are self-confessedly doing business. University is about real learning and knowledge, not equipping you with the lifeskills to manage a paper suppliers in Slough.

You sound like this guy tbh

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Sorry it's just this bit really confused me. How many professors do you have who aren't PhDs? :p

If it's Plymouth, probably 90% of them. Don't ex-Polys hire 'experts' from the field, sans academic qualifications? Plus I imagine a PhD in a business-related subject would be an immense waste of the time of everyone involved.
 
You're not competing against Kevin, your competing against thousands of people who have the exactly the same as you, but do go to the top establishments.

There is always a bigger fish, always always always. I remember sitting around in my suit during an icebreaker session, which practically went:

Nitefly - "something interesting and impressive about yourself? ... I once organised a conservation project in Hawaii through my university. 10 of us went out there and helped save the rainforest etc"

Candidate 1 - "I play for the England under 21 rugby team"

Candidate 2 - "I have a gold medal in the commonwealth games for badminton"

Candidate 3 - "pfft, you guys think that's good? I've been to the moon"

You can be made to feel stupid very, very quickly!
 
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