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No matter how people try to "justify" the killing of this man, its totally wrong! Yes he has done a terrible thing, but let him live with his actions, killing the dude won't bring the kid back!
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No matter how people try to "justify" the killing of this man, its totally wrong! Yes he has done a terrible thing, but let him live with his actions, killing the dude won't bring the kid back!
Actually it does matter, as an adult is at least semi capable of defending them selves, baby has no ability to defend it's self, and the baby is unlikely to have brought the anger upon its self.
Please explain to me how sticking him a cell, for the next few decades, is any different, an not "sweeping it under the rug"
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killing is wrong, and punishing people by killing them is wrong, it defeats the idea of the death penalty, killing someone for killing another, no one has the right to take someones life if you do then you are no better then he/she that committed the crime in the first place,
thats what supposed to separate us people from people like that, the ability to punish someone without stooping to thier level, without withdrawing back to our archaic instincts and dealing with the problematic individual by killing them, It really upsets me living in these times when people and so willingly accept such backward punishments,
yes he did a terrible thing, unspeakable as the original poster put it, but we are better than that surely, I wish no death on my friends or enemy's really, it's just wrong on a fundamental level, we just do not have the right to take someones life away, close your eyes and think about it objectively, search inside yourself and truly tell me that killing another is right ?, every fibre in my body tells me it's not.
thats what supposed to separate us people from people like that, the ability to punish someone without stooping to thier level, without withdrawing back to our archaic instincts and dealing with the problematic individual by killing them, It really upsets me living in these times when people and so willingly accept such backward punishments,
yes he did a terrible thing, unspeakable as the original poster put it, but we are better than that surely, I wish no death on my friends or enemy's really, it's just wrong on a fundamental level, we just do not have the right to take someones life away, close your eyes and think about it objectively, search inside yourself and truly tell me that killing another is right ?, every fibre in my body tells me it's not.
letting him live in a cell for a few decades will not bring it back either, so that is a pointless argument to try and use.
Again, what difference is there to lock him up and wait for nature to kill him for you, other than it eases your conscience.
Why do people always say this tosh!
We all know there is nothing that will bring the kid back but knowing that the sick **** that killed your kid is paying the ultimate price may bring some comfort to the parents, I know it would if it were me!
But it will prevent him cutting the head off any other babies.
How do you know he will even care about what he did, seeing as he did it. Just because you might get all upset if you cut the head off a baby, doesn't mean he would.
As others have said, locking him up for life won't bring the child back either so there isn't a difference between the two punishments except cost.
I'd rather just kill him. It is a brutal act of murder.
Killing him is not the same as murder. We have the ability not to murder, it isn't an impulsive decision - it's law (well for example in the US).
In this case it was a decision made in anger, filled with emotion (to behead the baby).
In this case the evidence is overwhelming. I'd rather he was killed than taking up a cell place, or the resources to keep him alive.
Killing him is not the same as murder. We have the ability not to murder, it isn't an impulsive decision - it's law (well for example in the US).
In this case it was a decision made in anger, filled with emotion (to behead the baby).
In this case the evidence is overwhelming. I'd rather he was killed than taking up a cell place, or the resources to keep him alive.
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Ok done that, it took me about 5 seconds of soul searching to come to the conclusion that beheading him is absolutley the right decision.
Because of his crime he needs removing from society in the most permanent manner available. Think about what he did, this child is aware of it's surroundings, it thinks and feels and is able to feel pain, but it is completely unable to defend itself, then this man comes along and cuts his head off with a knife. it would feel that but be utterly unable to defend itself while this is going on.
After looking at the circumstances I am at an utter loss as to how people could think that this person deserves anything but death.
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This is why I'm losing faith in society, when someone tells me beheading someone is "the right decision" it pains me almost to tears seriously, I feel like I'm living in the dark ages really, if thats how you feel then fine thats your prerogative mate, maybe I'm expecting too much of society, we've barely crawled out of our caves really, it just annoys me.
Great, now they are going too behead a mentally ill individual 
Like the murder of the child wasn't enough!!
What an utterly civilised and pleasant place to live!
No wonder repulsive stuff like this happens all the time their when the people are surrounded by such horrific barbarity!!
Like the murder of the child wasn't enough!!What an utterly civilised and pleasant place to live!
No wonder repulsive stuff like this happens all the time their when the people are surrounded by such horrific barbarity!!
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And I could say the same about your opinion, but I'd leave out the melodramatic moral high horse routine.
It might stop other kids being in danger. It might stop other people doing the same thing.
Great, now they are going too behead a mentally ill individual
What an utterly civilised and pleasant place to live!
Yes where as we'd throw him in a cell, and wait for him to die, or more likely let him out in 11-20 years
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Because killing is wrong, need I explain more, it has nothing to do with easing my conscience and everything to do with trying to do whats right, and usually doing whats right is the harder route, I think people like this need to be institutionalised, studied, find out what actually brings a person to commit a crime like that, try to gain a higher understanding of this type of persons mentality, use that information to help us evolve our psychological therapies etc, I think killing him is wrong and just locking him up is a waste, but one is worse than the other.
Why should this man be kept alive? Do the people who are against his execution are so because of their conscience or ill-held beliefs that an eye for an eye is wrong even in the most extreme of circumstances? This man took his sister's child - remember that - and beheaded his own blood, his own family in cold blood in front of the child's mother.
Why kill him, some people say. Well I'll tell you why - the murderer forfeit his own right to live when he decided he could take life of his own accord at his own whim, in a sadistic nature that wouldn't be out of place in your most hellish and otherworldly nightmares. Keeping this man alive is pointless. He must be removed to protect society, to serve justice. People will not stand to see their tax go towards the ongoing life of this sadistic child-beheading killer.
The people who go against the man's death sentence are those who have no idea of the severity of the situation, using loose arguments and flawed logic as their best rapport to ease their own conscience. Here, let me carve out a clear conscience for you: this man deserves to die.
Right, because psychological profiling works. There are genuinely violent and aggressive people in the world. Therapy and treatment isn't a fix for everything. How would you stop others from acting out similair events beforehand? What indications are there that another person will do the same and how can you be 100% certain, and what would you do to avoid that? Throw them in jail or detention for something they have not commited? You can take any normal sane person and he can do the most violent and brutal acts just like that. Your reasoning is loosely held together and deeply flawed.
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So your just going to give him a death sentence, just it's going to take a few years longer, and during that time subject him to medical experiments most likely against his will?
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Your a funny man, "medical experiments", "death sentence" lol, you should work for the daily mail, your sensationalised pathetic reply doesn't even deserve a response, your cleverer than that mate.