Upcoming Asus and ASRock X570 motherboards

The Old School Gamer · 22 Mar 2019 at 20:52

https://videocardz.com/newz/upcoming-asus-x570-motherboards
https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-x570-motherboards-msi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-listed-at-eec

I'm starting to get excited, not too much longer to wait now, it's going to be a good (mid) year. :cool:

craigyhay · 23 Mar 2019 at 09:41

any word on when the b550's will show up

Radox-0 · 23 Mar 2019 at 09:47

An impact board :eek:

4K8KW10 · 23 Mar 2019 at 16:37

Plenty to choose from:

ROG CROSSHAIR VIII FORMULA
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI)
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII IMPACT
ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING
ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING
ROG STRIX X570-I GAMING
PRIME X570-P
PRIME X570-PRO
Pro WS X570-ACE
TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI)
TUF GAMING X570-PLUS

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 6
ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4
ASRock X570 Extreme4
ASRock X570 Taichi
ASRock X570 Pro4
ASRock X570 Pro4 R2.0
ASRock X570M Pro4
ASRock X570M Pro4 R2.0

4K8KW10 · 23 Mar 2019 at 21:51

The Asus Pro WS X570-ACE will be a really interesting board. Hinting at the availability of higher core count CPUs intended for workstations. And still on the AM4 :eek:

Random Guy Esq. · 24 Mar 2019 at 15:07

*tents fingers* Excellent...

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 10:04

asus will look a lot like aorus vrm wise this time around , almost a clone i believe .
MSI and Aorus still keeping the same caliber as z390 but not coping each other . have heard on asrock yet
VRM count is HIGH, reason why AMD hasn't offcially stated B350 Support for Zen2 and leaving it up to Mobo Vendors to decide if their boards are able to handle it

tamzzy · 25 Mar 2019 at 10:26

@orbitalwalsh have you any inside knowledge about the differences between x570 and b550? I mean stuff like the vrms etc...will it still be enough to run a 16c ryzen?

Also will b550 support pcie 4? And is it an amd in house design like x570 or will it still use asmedia chipset?

I know connectivity eg usb ports etc will be less but I'm ok with that.

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 11:06

tamzzy said:
@orbitalwalsh have you any inside knowledge about the differences between x570 and b550? I mean stuff like the vrms etc...will it still be enough to run a 16c ryzen?

Also will b550 support pcie 4? And is it an amd in house design like x570 or will it still use asmedia chipset?

I know connectivity eg usb ports etc will be less but I'm ok with that.

no idea on that one, if i did, most likely i'd be shot in the foot with AMD haha :d.
I wouldnt be surprised if B550 did have PCIe 4.0 - no reason not to and no extra costs . AMD at pcie limit to intel so if they can shift to match or beat b360 hopefully they would . Having Dual NVMe x4 would be a nice uplift from b450 boards x4 and x2 m.2's.

b550 is actually under lot more lock and key then x570 - think launch is beginning Q4.

again they should follow suit with all in house . Intel did it with B360 and then Z390 - z370 wasn't in house to do larger node, and then they rolled b365 which was large node and not in-house.

b450 Strix E over F is a good indication

tamzzy · 25 Mar 2019 at 11:57

orbitalwalsh said:
no idea on that one, if i did, most likely i'd be shot in the foot with AMD haha :d.

orbitalwalsh said:
b550 is actually under lot more lock and key then x570 - think launch is beginning Q4.

oh no, beginning to be pushed back

well...i guess it'll give a bit more time for ryzen 3000 prices to settle.
no rush from me lol
#3770kftw

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 13:00

tamzzy said:
oh no, beginning to be pushed back well...i guess it'll give a bit more time for ryzen 3000 prices to settle.
no rush from me lol
#3770kftw

x570 still in lin for computex . think thought they are out in June, but makes sense just after . They didn't show at last years computex which was would have been awesome for PR.

I have a feeling most will be 6+2 phase set up . 8 channel PWM - just the question of using 2x lo and hi side ( gigabyte shouldn't be making same mistake twice) . Its the question of if vendors copy Strix E and use Doublers.. even if cheapest units they can get. Gigabyte z390 budget boards shown can use cheap, hot units, but enough of them and with good heatsink and some PR...golden

tamzzy · 25 Mar 2019 at 13:19

orbitalwalsh said:
x570 still in lin for computex . think thought they are out in June, but makes sense just after .

yeah, if product differentiation for b550/x570 is vrm and connectivity, then as long as b550 vrms are capable of handling 16c decently, then better choice would be to wait for b550.
99.99% of computer users don't need sli, nor 10 bajillion usb/sata ports etc

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 14:24

tamzzy said:
yeah, if product differentiation for b550/x570 is vrm and connectivity, then as long as b550 vrms are capable of handling 16c decently, then better choice would be to wait for b550.
99.99% of computer users don't need sli, nor 10 bajillion usb/sata ports etc

I have a feeling they wont do well... just have to take a look at 1st batch of X399 TR boards and VRM count.. aorus updated their range a bit but Pro is entry board - designed to handle 16 core chips

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/X399-AORUS-PRO-rev-10#kf

8+2 x50A power stages ( IR3578 )

Xtreme uses the same but 10+3

Xtreme was meant to handle 4ghz at 32core with 14nm node ...

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/gigabyte-x399-aorus-xtreme-review-w-amd-2990wx/6/

but have a feeling is Ryzen 3000 16 core can hit 5ghz all cores with 7nm... still will be hot (least chiplet design will spread heat unlike being one die) and consume more power, just like any overclock- all that R&D time for best performance to power is wasted

BUT....ITX boards like Aorus and MSI use integrated phases - and asus did you a 12 phase B450 board... being 10+2 ( with 5 doublers)

tamzzy · 25 Mar 2019 at 15:06

orbitalwalsh said:
I have a feeling they wont do well... just have to take a look at 1st batch of X399 TR boards and VRM count.. aorus updated their range a bit but Pro is entry board - designed to handle 16 core chips

hopefully with the power efficiency saving...could run 12 core chips...guess 16c a bit of an ask lol.
will have to differentiate the product stack somewhat. else have el-cheapos like me trying to eek out best value parts

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 15:22

tamzzy said:
hopefully with the power efficiency saving...could run 12 core chips...guess 16c a bit of an ask lol.
will have to differentiate the product stack somewhat. else have el-cheapos like me trying to eek out best value parts

I had a feeling heat and power would have sucked if they just kept the same design but shrunk it , having chiplets and IO chips, more points to let out heat with IHS ... my theory anyways .

feeling we'll see a trend of smaller nodes at stock speed being fast and cooling, but overclocking them- die area wont be enough and will get hot hot - wonder if that was a down side to Vega 7- smaller but not enough surface area to rid heat

tamzzy · 25 Mar 2019 at 15:23

yeah probably right. cuz although actual power draw is less, but power density (power per area) would probably be worse...

orbitalwalsh · 25 Mar 2019 at 15:37

tamzzy said:
yeah probably right. cuz although actual power draw is less, but power density (power per area) would probably be worse...

will be all over ryzen 4000 personally

hopefully EUV 7nm

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-Z77X-UP7-rev-10#ov

ahh.. 32 phases... pmsl - hink its =actually 19

peahead · 28 Mar 2019 at 11:22

Do we have a idea of a date of release for the boards and cpu's ?

The Old School Gamer · 28 Mar 2019 at 18:57

peahead said:
Do we have a idea of a date of release for the boards and cpu's ?

The last day of Computex is June 1st, so maybe general availability the week after if we are lucky.

peahead · 29 Mar 2019 at 00:08

The Old School Gamer said:
The last day of Computex is June 1st, so maybe general availability the week after if we are lucky.

Ok so not too far away.thanks