Updating CV - should references be "on request"?
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Scam said:
True, good thing I haven't sent it out since i've put it in there.
Arthur_Jay said:
I have "Curriculum Vitae: My Full NAME". Makes it easy to find mine if they are flicking through a big pile of CVs, and makes my name stand out.
Basically when I started knocking up a CV around 9 years ago, my dad showed me some examples of ones he'd been sent and gave me some tips on the kindof things which impressed him (he's seen hundreds if not thousands of them over the years) and also some big no-***. Apart from padding out the details, and some minor changes, my CV has remained largely unchanged since I first drew it up back then.
Having seen quite a few CVs from other people last year, I've come to the concllusion that mine is a bit too long winded. It weighs in at 6 pages when most people seem to have only 2-3. I think this stems from that fact that my original CV obviously had no work experience listed, so I felt I had to pad it out with otherstuff, emphasising my exemplary qualifications etc. Whereas now I should be looking to summarize more and put more focus on skills and acheivements at work.
Regarding the original question, yeah, "References on request" is fine with me. I think it's almost expected and if you leave it out people might be left thinking 'Where the hell is the references section?! is this some n00b who forgot to put it on!'
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Personally if i had to wade through 6 pages of CV i just wouldn't bother.
Nothing to do with the content, just the sheer time to read through it all. At the end of the day if you haveto pre-vet peoples applications and you have 40-50 to read through then you could spend days wading through huge CV's (I interviewed for 10 service desk jobs, a team leader and service desk manager last year, had to read through over 100 applications and only had 2 days to do it). All i would want to see are details of what people did in either the last two jobs or over the last 2-3yrs and any relevant skills/quals listed that may be required. I'm not too bothered if people like building PC's in their spare time or going to the cinema or going out on the **** with their friends, all that will come out in interview about how well you can socially interact with your prospective colleagues.
And as for not putting CV at the top of the document. At the end of the day, that's what it is, you'll get one of two responses usually, either the person reading it wont notice or they will be pedantic and say 'look, he cant even be arsed putting CV at the start of his/her CV how lazy is that!'
Nothing to do with the content, just the sheer time to read through it all. At the end of the day if you haveto pre-vet peoples applications and you have 40-50 to read through then you could spend days wading through huge CV's (I interviewed for 10 service desk jobs, a team leader and service desk manager last year, had to read through over 100 applications and only had 2 days to do it). All i would want to see are details of what people did in either the last two jobs or over the last 2-3yrs and any relevant skills/quals listed that may be required. I'm not too bothered if people like building PC's in their spare time or going to the cinema or going out on the **** with their friends, all that will come out in interview about how well you can socially interact with your prospective colleagues.
And as for not putting CV at the top of the document. At the end of the day, that's what it is, you'll get one of two responses usually, either the person reading it wont notice or they will be pedantic and say 'look, he cant even be arsed putting CV at the start of his/her CV how lazy is that!'
kefkef said:
Yeah - my boss didn't bother reading it either until the actual interview
To be fair though it does have a fair amount of blank space (1st page is just contact details, tables used for qualifications etc) and in general it was well received by agents. In general I've always felt it better to write too much rather than too little as the latter can hint at laziness or lack of commitment to the application - I also always make sure my covering letter is a full page.
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Hmmm careers adviser at uni said make sure it's no more than 2 pages long. I put referees on request on mine and have a header with name and contact details. Uni careers service is so much more switched on that at school though, that's for sure 