Soldato
Except that coffelake won't be holding next gen of gpus back.....
It already does in some titles. Wait for Nvidias next cards to see how much it will hamper performance.
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It already does in some titles. Wait for Nvidias next cards to see how much it will hamper performance.
Caporegime
How would you know that? it already holds back the 1080TI in some titles.
Any links to support this?
Soldato
Coffelake is always top of the boards. You'll find it's the 1080ti holding it back.
Soldato
Pubg for a start, along with other cpu intensive games.
I'm not going to go into yet another cpu war here but wait for ampere and I'll be here saying I told you so
Caporegime
We can argue all day and night about the 8700K holding back the 1080TI the fact is there is no absolute answer to that no matter how much you try and stamp absolutes on it in some cases the 8700K does bottleneck the 1080TI./
Besides that ^^^ obvious flaw in you argument you're avoiding the question, how do you know the 8700K will not bottleneck the next generation of GPU's? you can't know without knowing how much headroom the 8700K has, if any and how much faster new GPU's will be, you don't know any of that so once again you're just making blanket straw statements to avoid your own arguments about AMD also applying to Intel, of course it does.
Soldato
Faster cpus last longer. There's no straw man about that.
Soldato
This video is perfect, look at the GPU usage. Whenever it drops below 95% it is being held back by the CPU. In fact go on youtube and look amongst hundreds of videos with the 1600 and 1070/1080 and check the GPU usage and see for yourself.
Now the question you have to ask is, if its holding back a 1080 now then whats it going to be like in 2-3 years time with newer GPU's?
Soldato
0.1% minimums are much better on the current Intel chips, well Digital Foundry showed it at least.
Does anyone know if the 1600x comes with thermal paste preapplied?
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Thermal paste comes with the cooler, has it got one?
I don't believe it does.
16gb of Ram is going to set you back 200 so you are looking at about 300 for the CPU+MB
You can't quite get a 8600k and a Z370 board for that. The Cheapest Z370 board is 91 so you are looking at a minimum of 520. The 8700k would significantly break your budget.
For the same price you could get the Gaming 3 B350 board and a Ryzen 7 1700.
Given the choice of an 8 Core 16 Thread Ryzen or a 6 core 6 thread Intel I would be heading for AMD.
The 8600k will be better at a lot of games this year, but pretty equal in most and by next year it will be looking tired.
At this point you are really better waiting for the three weeks to see how the Ryzen 2600x compares to the Intel 8600k. That may make the decision even easier.
You can't quite get a 8600k and a Z370 board for that. The Cheapest Z370 board is 91 so you are looking at a minimum of 520. The 8700k would significantly break your budget.
For the same price you could get the Gaming 3 B350 board and a Ryzen 7 1700.
Given the choice of an 8 Core 16 Thread Ryzen or a 6 core 6 thread Intel I would be heading for AMD.
The 8600k will be better at a lot of games this year, but pretty equal in most and by next year it will be looking tired.
At this point you are really better waiting for the three weeks to see how the Ryzen 2600x compares to the Intel 8600k. That may make the decision even easier.
Caporegime
The 1600 comes with a Stock Cooler which has thermal past pre-applied, the 1600X does not come with a cooler.
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I would be waiting until we see the next AMD cpus in a month or so, wouldnt be buying anything at the moment.
At this point I would just wait since AMD is launching their next Ryzen CPU's and motherboards in a couple of weeks.
I also think anyone who is planning on getting an i5-8400 CPU should definitely wait until the 1600/x replacement, the Ryzen 2600/x is out before making a decision.
I also think anyone who is planning on getting an i5-8400 CPU should definitely wait until the 1600/x replacement, the Ryzen 2600/x is out before making a decision.
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Soldato
Careful now, Gavin87 will be along to smack you with talk like that. Don't you know that...INTEL is forever always bestest and AMD is worstest?
All my system builds over the years were AMD based. Last one being the FX 8350 on a Sabretooth 990fx board, which at the time, was regarded as a good setup but I have always been on 'catch up' with the Intel chips and this was one reason why I chose the 8700k this time, along with lots of good reviews.
My needs are mainly gaming with a small amount of Video editing etc so I tried not to go for as many cores as possible like I did last time (partly thinking more cores = better gaming)
So quit bashing my 8700k! Or at least for a few weeks until I've had it for a while lol
My needs are mainly gaming with a small amount of Video editing etc so I tried not to go for as many cores as possible like I did last time (partly thinking more cores = better gaming)
So quit bashing my 8700k! Or at least for a few weeks until I've had it for a while lol
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