Upgrade advice (Gaming)

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So I’ll cut to the chase, I know my system is due an upgrade but I’m not sure what to prioritise, my system is as follows:

MOBO - MSI Z97 Gaming 5
GPU - GTX 970 Twin Frozr
CPU - i5 4690k
16GB Ram (Corsair vengeance)

my power supply is a 750w Corsair one so I’m pretty sure I’m safe with that for a while, if there are important components I’ve left out please let me know
 
Good point, how much would I need to spend for the upgrade to be worth it? I have a limited budget, ideally I don’t want to spend more than £500 in total but I will if I need to in order to make the upgrade worth it, I also only use the PC for gaming
 
Thiunk you'll need a 3060ti to make it worth it @£369.. you need to subs to FE PartAlert via telegram on phone and grab one in a drop..sell out in mins when that happens...then can look at mobo/cpu/ram. What storage are you using?
 
I’ve got an SSD for my operating system but only enough storage for that, would I really need to upgrade the MOBO & RAM too? I always hear anything over 16GB is usually excess for gaming or has that changed now?
 
Worth mentioning that with gpu prices being very high atm, and potential for current gen cpu prices to drop with Intel 12 series around the corner it might be worth holding off on any upgrade for a few months. It looks like gpu prices will remain high for at least another year, but may improve a bit, but might well be more potential to pick up cut-price new or second hand cpus. That said:

I think the 970 and i5 4690k are reasonably well matched so there isn't an obvious either/or to upgrade, but I think the 970 is probably slightly more likely to be limiting performance depending on the game, even assuming you game at 1080p.

If you could get a 3060 Ti FE for £370 (need to get the Telegram app and join the FE partalert channel to get notifications when stock comes in (roughly every 2 weeks I think) or you've got no chance) then that would be the best value option. Next price bracket up would be a 6600xt for £450ish (NB it's not as fast as a 3060 Ti though, so much worse deal - as are all brand partner cards). Both of those cards would be severely bottlenecked by your cpu, but any limitations due to the gpu would be gone.

If you could get a used 1080Ti or something then that would also be a great upgrade, but I think the used prices are a bit too high to make sense atm compared to getting a new card at that performance level.

AMD is the best option for me cpus atm, but they don't have anything available at the mid to low end of the market so for a new cpu you're looking at Intel again. Something like a 10400F, B560 mobo, 16gb ddr4 ram which would be £300ish. Going second has could be worth getting say a ryzen 1600 with new mobo and ram though (could be £200ish for that combo).

Could be worth dropping in a second hand i7 in to your current mobo to see if it improves things a bit though. Depends if you can get one for a good price.
 
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mobo is 1150 socket, latest 1200 socket so if you wanted to upgrade to a much newer chip you would need a new mobo. 12th gen cpu's being launched next month on a new mobo socket too. From what's been written it's going to be a leap in performance compared to their latest offerings. I was assuming you've prob got DDR3 in there, so if going to upgrade, you'll want to upgrade that too.
So just sticking in a 3060ti will give you an instant uplift in fps, then either as Joxeon & GreatAuk say, stick a slightly more powerful cpu that can fit the mobo, go ryzen if looking now, or hang on and see what alderlake/socket1700 does, and see how AMD responds
 
Intel are launching 4 new graphics early next year and likely at CES. I’d sit tight for those.
so Jan 5th, release press conf, then release several months later...you'll be waiting half a year....that's a long time to wait, not something I could do if itching to upgrade....I could wait a month to see what Alderlake brings though..3060ti for 369, if can get one in a drop will work wonders..they sell for £700 at auction so where's the downside...at the mo, intel gpu's are an unknown (prices?)..hopefully they'll have some that fit below the 3060ti that can be fabricated in vol(as well as above)..that'll mean stock and a return to normal prices for rest as aib's drop their prices, or be forever s****d rather than these massively inflated prices we have to contend with...but that's still prob 2nd half of next year
 
Intel are launching 4 new graphics early next year and likely at CES. I’d sit tight for those.
There are a lot of unknowns there though, so personally I really wouldn't wait for next year if I had the option of getting an FE card. No confirmed details on performance, no confirmed pricing, no details about volume that will be available (and therefore whether they'll make any impact on overpriced aib card pricing). Nobody even knows when they'll actually be in sale.
 
To get the advertised performance from Nvidia RTX cards you must use a system with a highend CPU.

A DDR3 Intel i7 quad core really isn’t going to cut it.
 
To get the advertised performance from Nvidia RTX cards you must use a system with a highend CPU.

A DDR3 Intel i7 quad core really isn’t going to cut it.
No but it'll still be far better performance than spending £400 of the budget on a CPU + MB + ram then only having £100 left over for the graphics card.
 
Actually mis read the OP, it’s an Intel i5.

Id sit tight and consider saving a little more. RDNA2 performs reasonably well Ryzen quad cores, but still less than ideal.
 
That is a good point. HWunboxed did that article testing NV and AMD cards with low to high end CPUs. AMD are great with all systems but 3000 series GPUs need an excellent overall system to perform well.

My advice would be to try and get 3060ti FE and see how it works in current system. Then upgrade mobo CPU etc at later date. Intel's new chips coming out and Black Friday may lead to good deals.
The 3060ti will not be a worse card in 3 months time and nothing in the immediate future will be better value.
 
That is a good point. HWunboxed did that article testing NV and AMD cards with low to high end CPUs.
If you check those HW unboxed vids he tests at 1080p medium quality settings to make it look worse than it really is, there will still be some bottleneck at high settings but not nearly as much.
 
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