Upgrade Advice Needed Please

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Hi Guys,

Its been many years since i made my current PC and now i feel its time to upgrade.

Current system:
PSU: Corsair VX 550W PSU
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 Dual X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
RAM: TeamGroup Vulcan RED 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor
COOLER: Noctua NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler
M/B: MSI B85-G43 Intel B85 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
SDD: Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gbs Basic

Got a Fractal case which i want to keep and a few WD storage drives ranging from 4-8TB which i also will keep for storage and backup purposes. Also have a copy of Win 10 so do not need an OS.

Its struggling now to transcode 4K on Plex streaming. Its also very stuttery in AutoCAD work.
Ideally want to keep as many components as possible but have to change things up. I think the PSU probably can be reused?

Will be pairing the new build with a new
LG Ultrawide 34WL75C-B 34-Inch Curved Monitor- 21:9 QHD 3440x1440

Budget is £600 but may go over a little if its right.
Another thing to note is that i do not want a power hungry machine that is loud.
Main use will be surfacing, autocad, office, and plex server duties.

As always....many thanks inadvance.
 
Ryzen 3700x, tomahawk max b450 and 16gb would be within budget, along with a sabrent rocket. That would be a massive performance increase.

Use the stock cooler from the new chip or check if there is an adapter for the noctua if you particularly like it.

The gpu is ok to reuse and I think the psu would be fine too but that would be next on my list too upgrade if you were able to stretch to a bit more.
 
Seearbe said:
Ryzen 3700x, tomahawk max b450 and 16gb would be within budget, along with a sabrent rocket. That would be a massive performance increase.

Use the stock cooler from the new chip or check if there is an adapter for the noctua if you particularly like it.

The gpu is ok to reuse and I think the psu would be fine too but that would be next on my list too upgrade if you were able to stretch to a bit more.
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Thanks.
What DDR would you recommend?

Would this be okay:
Sabrent 256GB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-256) ?
 
Get the 512gb if you can stretch to it. Always good to have as much fast storage as you can.

DDR 4 3200mhz ram should be good. Assuming you're not into overclocking, anything on the oc'ers website should be fine.
 
Seearbe said:
Get the 512gb if you can stretch to it. Always good to have as much fast storage as you can.

DDR 4 3200mhz ram should be good. Assuming you're not into overclocking, anything on the oc'ers website should be fine.
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Will this do the job?

CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX BLACK 32GB 3200 MHZ AMD RYZEN TUNED DDR4 MEMORY KIT
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £611.55 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Hows this?

Have read that Micron E RAM works well/better with Ryzen.

Have included the cooler adapter, but you may be able to get it free from Noctua. (https://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit-order-form)

Have included the 480GB drive to keep to the budget, but personally i would get the 960GB instead.
 
Seearbe said:
Using the stock cooler initially and then getting the free adapter would make a lot of sense.
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To be honest with you my Noctua is now 5yrs old so its full of dust and the fans are past their best so i think it will be easier just replacing it with a newer version.
 
freddie64 said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £611.55 (includes shipping: £11.10)
​

Hows this?

Have read that Micron E RAM works well/better with Ryzen.

Have included the cooler adapter, but you may be able to get it free from Noctua. (https://noctua.at/en/nm-am4-mounting-kit-order-form)

Have included the 480GB drive to keep to the budget, but personally i would get the 960GB instead.
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That's impressive. Choices choices....
 
photoshop said:
How would a RYZEN 5 3600X SIX CORE 4.4GHZ compare if i wanted to save some money?
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It appears Autocad only uses a single core except for "2D Regeneration" (and I have no idea what that is). But the point being, in your use case, the extra cores of the 3700X might not add a lot so the 3600X or 3600 might be a sensible compromise if you're wanting to keep budget in check. Wait for Black Friday though, as it looks like there might be some better pricing.

The Plex Transcoding would appear to benefit from the additional cores so depends on how important the speed gains there might be.

3700X would be the slightly more future-proof option of course but the extra 50% cost isn't likely to equate to an extra 50% performance or lifespan.

As I say, either compared to an i3...
 
Seearbe said:
It appears Autocad only uses a single core except for "2D Regeneration" (and I have no idea what that is). But the point being, in your use case, the extra cores of the 3700X might not add a lot so the 3600X or 3600 might be a sensible compromise if you're wanting to keep budget in check. Wait for Black Friday though, as it looks like there might be some better pricing.

The Plex Transcoding would appear to benefit from the additional cores so depends on how important the speed gains there might be.

3700X would be the slightly more future-proof option of course but the extra 50% cost isn't likely to equate to an extra 50% performance or lifespan.

As I say, either compared to an i3...
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2D Regeneration is when you refresh the whole drawing so it redraws the entire thing again as over time when working on a drawing it reduces the quality to save on memory. I will only do that probably once in a session so just a very minor point.
Think i'll stick with teh 3700x for future-proofing.
 
photoshop said:
2D Regeneration is when you refresh the whole drawing so it redraws the entire thing again as over time when working on a drawing it reduces the quality to save on memory. I will only do that probably once in a session so just a very minor point.
Think i'll stick with teh 3700x for future-proofing.
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It really is a tough call. Every 30 mins I change my mind between 2700X, 3600, 3700X and waiting until Ryzen 4000.
 
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