Upgrade advice please

harvb

harvb

harvb

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Hi all,

Hope you guys are all okay - looking for some friendly advice and hopefully you can point me in the right direction.

For the last 10-15 years I've bought my PCs from Overclockers, never had any real issues, and found the service and support excellent. I used to upgrade every 2-3 years when I had the money, but have more recently been a bit low on cash. My last PC (the one I'm typing from now) was an OC purchase back in 2017, and obviously it's starting to struggle with the latest games. I always buy complete rigs and not components and then upgrade myself, as I'm not that amazing with it. I have previously upgraded PC components (RAM, graphics cards etc) but never built my own rig from scratch.

My thoughts are, do I splash out big cash for whole rig again that will last me another 5+ years as this one has done, or do I go for components and risk that I can upgrade this machine myself and not blow it to pieces? Also, is it possible that with the right components this rig is upgradeable enough, or is a totally new rig actually the sensible way to go?

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This is my list of components from the current rig, which I'm sure may make some of you wince.

All advice gratefully received, please.

I think if it was a case of say just replacing the graphics card and some RAM, I ought to be able to manage that - anything involving changing processor, mobo or the like is likely to mean I shoot myself.

So I guess the next question is, what rigs would you guys recommend for around the grand mark, which might last me a few years for the current and gaming greats? I'll then need to think on what to do with this old beast...

Many thanks.

H
 
The simple upgrad would just be a faster gpu with more ram like a 6600/6700xt or 3060/ti/3070. I feel thats whats holding your rig back the most.

Changing the ram wont make any real difference.

Yes a full upgrade would bring extra performance but you could get away wittout depending upon what games and reslolution you play at.
 
Swapping the 1050 for a 6600 (£230-£250) would be my suggestion and it's one of the easiest upgrades to make. It does depend what games you're playing and what settings/resolution.
 
As a FYI (as you arent sure about self-biuild) for under your budget while reusing your case, ram, cooler, psu and hard drives (although I have added a nvme drive to speed up game/program loading).

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £759.88 (includes delivery: £0.00)​



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That gtx 1050 gpu will be the biggest thing holding the system back, so imo you should upgrade that first (maybe add a second ssd to install newer games on rather than the hard disk too). Should boost performance a lot, and you might be happy with the preformance of the rest of the system for another few years.

Presume you have a 1080p monitor?

On the nvidia side an RTX 3060 12gb for £330 might be a good upgrade: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1fh-gi.html

Or the more powerful 3060Ti for about another £100.

On the AMD side (would be worth running DDU to help get a clean transfer from Nvidia to AMD without driver issues -
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An RX 6600 for £250: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39r-sp.html
Or rx 6650xt for £310: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-38y-ms.html

The AMD options are better value atm, so that's what I'd buy personally.
 
Slightly pushing your budget you could even upgrade to AM5. This would give you an upgrade path for the future .

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,094.86 (includes delivery: £0.00)​



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As people have suggested, and your motherbaord supports it, is a NVME SSD upgrade, probably 1TB so you can get some games on it as well as your OS and then a graphics card upgrade. Good suggestions given above already so I don’t need to repeat what they’ve said. Then tbh I’d save for a bigger upgrade in 2024 as there’s plenty of life left in what you have with some choice upgrades.
 
These are all brilliant ideas and suggestions, thank you, I'm really grateful.

The games I'm currently playing are Assassins Creed Valhalla (runs pretty well but stalls a little from time to time), WH40K Darktide (runs about as smooth as a PowerPoint presentation, stutters like crazy and the game says I don't have even the minimum requirements), Sniper 5 (runs really well on medium to high), Red Dead Redemption 2 (I have to lower the resolution to even get it to consider running) and Cyberpunk 2077 (runs really well with medium settings, looks amazing but is definitely lagging).
 
harvb said:
These are all brilliant ideas and suggestions, thank you, I'm really grateful.

The games I'm currently playing are Assassins Creed Valhalla (runs pretty well but stalls a little from time to time), WH40K Darktide (runs about as smooth as a PowerPoint presentation, stutters like crazy and the game says I don't have even the minimum requirements), Sniper 5 (runs really well on medium to high), Red Dead Redemption 2 (I have to lower the resolution to even get it to consider running) and Cyberpunk 2077 (runs really well with medium settings, looks amazing but is definitely lagging).
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It's your gpu that doesn't meet the requirements in warhammer and should be changed first.

Rx 6600 at around £230 is a monster upgrade over you 1050
 
Hiya, me again - due to various complications and other Real World (TM) reasons I haven't upgraded yet, but it's becoming more of an issue now as my secondary HD is failing.

I'm going to go full rig, and if you guys are happy to ping advice to me again I'd be grateful, please.

I'm going to go to £1500-£1800 I think as I reckon this will be my new rig for around 8-10 years so will hopefully be good enough. Gaming wise I'm after something that will handle Starfield, Darktide, Baldurs Gate 3, the new Elder Scrolls/GTA/Space Marine games when they come out, etc.

I will want two HDs again, I think, so a primary for system/apps and a secondary for games, storage, photos etc. Unless you guys tell me that's insane. Currently I have a SSD for OS and a secondary old school HD for everything else (2TB).

On top of that, what's my quickest and easiest route to getting all the gumph from my HD across to the new machine? Shoving my old HD in as a third drive and copying it across, or some kind of caddy system? Apologies for the noob questions.

All advice gratefully received, as ever.
 
Something like this would fit the bill:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,585.87 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

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If you gave OCUK a ring and provided the above information they would build it for you for a fee, you could consider spending more upgrading to a 7800X3D CPU but the 7600 should be ample. Windows is not included in this build, but it's super easy to install yourself and does most of the work for you, all you need is a USB stick. I'd double check that the case I linked will fit that graphics card, but if OCUK are building it for you they'll be able to say for sure anyway.
 
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I put these two together from a quick look at the pre-builds, for comparison:

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x AMD - Starfield SI Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-00543) = £0.00
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Vulture - AMD Ryzen 7600X, AMD Radeon RX 7800XT Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1EV-OG) = £1,804.02
    • CPU: 1 x Build Stock AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Six Core 4.50GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Tra
    • Memory: 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK32GX5M2B5600Z36)
    • Graphics Card: 1 x SAPPHIRE PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6, AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture
    • Primary Solid State Drive (M.2: 1 x WD Black SN770 500GB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS500G3X0E)
    • Secondary Solid State Drive (M: 1 x WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)
    • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,816.01 (includes delivery: £11.98)​
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My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Gaming Sabre - Intel 12th Gen i5, RTX 4060 Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1FA-OG) = £1,819.98
    • Case: 1 x Kolink Stronghold Prism ARGB Midi Tower Case - Gunmetal Grey
    • Processor: 1 x Build Intel Core i5 12600KF up to 4.9GHz Turbo - Ten Core Sixteen Thread Pr
    • Graphics Card: 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4070 Dual 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Memory: 1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
    • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 1 : 1 x WD Black SN770 500GB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS500G3X0E)
    • M.2 Solid State Drive (SSD) 2 : 1 x WD Blue SN570 1TB SSD NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3B0C)
    • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,827.97 (includes delivery: £7.99)​
 
I've gone a step down in GPU was th the 780xt but have put in the 7800x3d one of the fastest gaming chips.

Put windows in there and also 2 X m2 drives , 1tb for windows and apps and 2tb for games, etc

Overclockers probably charge £100 to £150 to build to take you to £1800.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,658.77 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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I had a play with your budget and came up with this system OCUK will build for you.

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen AM5 Midi Gaming PC Configurator (SKU: SYS-OCT-00044) = £1,795.03
    • Case: 1 x Kolink Observatory Lite Mesh ARGB Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black
    • Processor: 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard: 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
    • Memory: 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01)
    • CPU Cooler: 1 x Alpenföhn Brocken 4 Single Tower 120mm CPU Cooler - Black
    • Graphics Card: 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Power Supply: 1 x Kolink Enclave 700W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3
    • Operating System: 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)

Total: £1,803.02 (includes delivery: £7.99)​



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matt1 said:
I had a play with your budget and came up with this system OCUK will build for you.

My basket at OcUK:
  • 1 x OcUK Tech Labs AMD Ryzen AM5 Midi Gaming PC Configurator (SKU: SYS-OCT-00044) = £1,795.03
    • Case: 1 x Kolink Observatory Lite Mesh ARGB Midi Tower Gaming Case - Black
    • Processor: 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
    • Motherboard: 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
    • Memory: 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01)
    • CPU Cooler: 1 x Alpenföhn Brocken 4 Single Tower 120mm CPU Cooler - Black
    • Graphics Card: 1 x Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
    • Power Supply: 1 x Kolink Enclave 700W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3
    • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3
    • Operating System: 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)

Total: £1,803.02 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

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Interesting question...the prebuild does not seen to include the two Starfield codes that should te4chnically be part of the package. Do you imagine they are not given over to subsidise costs or are included but unintentionally left out?
 
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