Upgrade advice

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 18:08

Hey guys due an upgrade

I need CPU, RAM, GPU, MOBO

I have a really nice case, 1tb SSD, 250gb ssd no M2 drive though? I’ve got a PSU and I’ve got a water loop for the CPU but I reckon I’m due an upgrade with that!

Am I missing anything? budget say 2000?

Thanks guys

Minibiker · 18 Mar 2018 at 18:11

When you say upgrade im guessing you have a current system...

Do you know the specs if so?

What will you use it for?

4K8KW10 · 18 Mar 2018 at 18:36

One of the possibilities is to go all in with Ryzen Threadripper

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte X399 Designare EX AMD X399 (Socket TR4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £349.99
2 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £218.99
1 x **B Grade** AMD Ryzen Threadripper Sixteen Core 1950X 4.00GHz (Socket TR4) Processor - Retail= £799.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer AIO CPU Cooler - 240mm= £77.99
1 x Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Dual 8192MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £488.99

Total: £2,166.04 (includes shipping: £11.10)

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 18:40

4K8KW10 said:
One of the possibilities is to go all in with Ryzen Threadripper

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Could we not Intel and 1080ti? Also whats a thread ripper?

orbitalwalsh · 18 Mar 2018 at 18:50

Neoni said:
Could we not Intel and 1080ti? Also whats a thread ripper?

You've made my night with that comment

(and not taking the michael)
By thread ripper , they mean AMD flagship consumer platform , armed with 12 to 16 cores with double the thread count . Great if you want a workstation for CPU rendering or photo editing or 4K encoding . Gaming not so much

What's your current system though ?
If you say you have a 4th gen i7 K CPU you'd most likely be advised to keep it and up the GPU to best you can get, maybe using funds that could have gone on a mobo/CPU/ram for a very nice G-sync screen etc etc

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:28

orbitalwalsh said:
You've made my night with that comment (and not taking the michael)
By thread ripper , they mean AMD flagship consumer platform , armed with 12 to 16 cores with double the thread count . Great if you want a workstation for CPU rendering or photo editing or 4K encoding . Gaming not so much

What's your current system though ?
If you say you have a 4th gen i7 K CPU you'd most likely be advised to keep it and up the GPU to best you can get, maybe using funds that could have gone on a mobo/CPU/ram for a very nice G-sync screen etc etc

No im on old tech like really old ive got a 680gtx, and a i5-4670k

lee32uk · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:34

Neoni said:
No im on old tech like really old ive got a 680gtx, and a i5-4670k

What is the pc going to be used for ?

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:39

lee32uk said:
What is the pc going to be used for ?

Gaming, and design work basically but not rendering i use this currently for design, and it walks it so, if we focus on gaming, then im sure it'll be fine

orbitalwalsh · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:44

I7 4790k and a 1080Ti

reset of cash on a damn good screen. If you haven't got 1440p 144hz+

What Res and refresh is current monitor ?

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:45

orbitalwalsh said:
I7 4790k and a 1080Ti reset of cash on a damn good screen. If you haven't got 1440p 144hz+

Ive got 2 x 24" Monitors 144hz, BenQ

orbitalwalsh · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:47

Even save cash and drive with a gtx 1080, as I'm guessing there 1080p ?
Gtx 1080 is a nice card for ultra wide 1080p screens so should do well with your two screens , or gtx 1070ti .
Gtx 1080ti is just eye watering in price

Quartz · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:54

Neoni said:
No im on old tech like really old ive got a 680gtx, and a i5-4670k

While a new GPU will work wonders, your CPU is just fine. Maybe upgrade to a 4790K. There's the possibility of new Nvidia GPUs shortly.

Neoni · 18 Mar 2018 at 19:58

Quartz said:
While a new GPU will work wonders, your CPU is just fine. Maybe upgrade to a 4790K. There's the possibility of new Nvidia GPUs shortly.

So what do you ultimately recommend?

This computer runs a lot of stuff, ive just got to lower res on certain games so im stuck on what to do, the cheaper option the better!

4K8KW10 · 18 Mar 2018 at 20:01

Neoni said:
So what do you ultimately recommend?

This computer runs a lot of stuff, ive just got to lower res on certain games so im stuck on what to do, the cheaper option the better!

If the computer runs a lot of stuff and you really can afford spending a serious amount of money, go for the 16-core/32-thread AMD Ryzen 1950X.

lee32uk · 18 Mar 2018 at 20:10

Neoni said:
So what do you ultimately recommend?

This computer runs a lot of stuff, ive just got to lower res on certain games so im stuck on what to do, the cheaper option the better!

If you want new then either an i7 8700K or a Ryzen R7 1700 would both be good options. The i7 is the faster cpu for gaming, but the R7 1700 has extra cpu cores/threads.

The other option as mentioned above would be to go 2nd hand as a stop gap. Maybe keep your eye open for an i7 4770K or 4790K in the members market.

The issue with you lowering the resolution is with the gpu. A GTX 1070 or above would be a nice upgrade. Again you might find a few in the members market as current prices are a bit crazy due to the crypto mining craze.

mrbazmondo · 18 Mar 2018 at 20:44

How much RAM do you have currently?

orbitalwalsh · 19 Mar 2018 at 07:20

When your in full design work .oxe with max applications open, take a look at task manager and see how much load the cores are under as well as ram usage .

Neoni · 19 Mar 2018 at 09:43

mrbazmondo said:
How much RAM do you have currently?

16GB of Ram

Neoni · 19 Mar 2018 at 09:43

orbitalwalsh said:
When your in full design work .oxe with max applications open, take a look at task manager and see how much load the cores are under as well as ram usage .

It’s normally vector based work so uses little processing it’s when I’m designing artwork in photoshop which is the heavy usage

orbitalwalsh · 19 Mar 2018 at 10:13

photoshop still favours Intel over AMD - guessing ram limit with almost max with intense photoshop work ?

i7 8700 could be a good buy for yourself, almost £100 cheaper then K version - will boost to 4.3ghz on all six cores!

6 cores and 12 threads vs your 4/4

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £269.99
1 x Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £359.99

Total: £629.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)

the £100 or so could be put towards 32GB of ram

seems a scratch disk could also boost performance - maybe that could be used as an NVMe drive for pure speed!

https://helpx.adobe.com/uk/photoshop/kb/optimize-photoshop-cc-performance.html

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i7-8700 3.2GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £269.99
1 x Team Group Night Hawk LED 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red Light (THRD= £299.99
1 x Gigabyte Z370P D3 Intel Core Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £91.99

Total: £672.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)