Upgrade and wait on a GPU?

mart1985

mart1985

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Having not been impressed with the 5080 reviews and put off by the pricing on the 5090, I have so far held off on upgrading my pc.

I've decided to go ahead and upgrade now, but I'm unsure whether to bite the bullet and pay for a 5080, or wait and see if 4090/5080/5090 gets any more reasonable and run the 3090 in a new set up for a while.

I have put together a spec of:

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1 X Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black - £169.99
SKU: CAS-ATC-03468
1 X AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £699.95
SKU: PRO-AMD-04501
1 X Asus ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £400.00
SKU: MOT-ASU-03086
1 X Corsair Vengeance EXPO RGB 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - £199.99
SKU: MEM-CRS-03749
1 X Asus ROG Strix 1200w Platinum 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - £199.99
SKU: POW-ASU-03792
1 X ASUS ROG Strix LC II 360 Performance ARGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 360mm - £224.99
SKU: HS-05C-AS
Grand Total: £1,906.90

I want a big case and to maximise air cooling as my office gets very warm and I don't want to have to run the AC every time I game just to keep the pc cool.

Does the build make sense? The CPU is a bit overkill to be honest, so I could drop that to the 9800X3D, but for now I have it included. Would you just fork out for a 5080 to go with it or hold off?
 
Hi.

Solid build

9800x3d makes more sense for a gaming build unless you do other things and the Antec Flux is a great choice for a case.

Asus fan by the looks of your build but there are other alternatives such as the Asrock nova x870e which is worth a look but could go cheaper boards if you want.


Aio is a bit excessive for the price .

What resolution you gaming at ?
 
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Thanks @mickyflinn

I do a very limited amount of video editing, not enough to really warrant anything beyond the 9800x3d. Would the 9950X3D make very little difference for gaming?

I was thinking of going all out on the mobo and certainly the cooling. I want it to run as cool, and quiet, as possible without going down the wc route.
 
mart1985 said:
I've decided to go ahead and upgrade now, but I'm unsure whether to bite the bullet and pay for a 5080, or wait and see if 4090/5080/5090 gets any more reasonable and run the 3090 in a new set up for a while.
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3090 is still a great card and there's nothing affordable to replace it.

mart1985 said:
1 X Asus ROG STRIX X870-F GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £400.00
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Very pricey board, what features do you need/want?
 
mart1985 said:
Thanks @mickyflinn

I do a very limited amount of video editing, not enough to really warrant anything beyond the 9800x3d. Would the 9950X3D make very little difference for gaming?

I was thinking of going all out on the mobo and certainly the cooling. I want it to run as cool, and quiet, as possible without going down the wc route.
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The arctc freezer 3 is one of the best performing aio and at around £90 is worth a look.
 
Thanks @Tetras I feel like waiting to snap up a better priced 4090 or for the 5080 to reduce is the play.

To be honest, just a very good mobo to go with which ever cpu I get. Would a X670 board make more sense if going the 9800x3d route?
 
mart1985 said:
To be honest, just a very good mobo to go with which ever cpu I get. Would a X670 board make more sense if going the 9800x3d route?
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It really comes down to what features you need, there's no point paying for what you will never use.

The VRM quality is pretty much meaningless with this gen of CPUs because their power usage is low, so that mainly leaves two things: number of M.2 slots and the PCI-E Gen.

The PCI-E Gen doesn't really bother me, but if you're forking out for a 5080 or something like that, you'd probably rather not lose even a few percent, so that would land on B650E, B850 or X870/X870E.

The main difference between the B boards and X870/X870E is that USB4 is required on the latter, but that often has the consequence of introducing lane sharing on the M.2 slots, between the M.2 slot(s) and the graphics card.

I would suggest a minimum baseline (if you like Asus Strix brand) of the B650E-F Strix, which was widely recommended when B650 was current, due to being one of the cheapest PCI-E 5.0 (graphics) capable motherboards.
 
mart1985 said:
Thanks @mickyflinn I always feel like my current rig gets far too hot, but that is possibly due to inefficient cooling set-up. I just want to make sure it is very quiet and cool, even if it means a bit of overkill on that front.
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Plenty of options.

Motherboard , b850 are good option.

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Would this future proof me for a 4090/5080?

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1 X Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black - £169.99
SKU: CAS-ATC-03468
1 X Corsair Vengeance EXPO RGB 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - £199.99
SKU: MEM-CRS-03749
1 X Asus ROG Strix 1200w Platinum 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - £200.00
SKU: POW-ASU-03792
1 X AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £488.98
SKU: PRO-AMD-03517
1 X MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI (AMD AM5) B850 ATX Motherboard - £245.00
SKU: MOT-MSI-03993
1 X Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £89.98
SKU: COO-ARC-01992
Grand Total: £1,393.94

Will need to buy some additional fans too.
 
mart1985 said:
Would this future proof me for a 4090/5080?

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1 X Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black - £169.99
SKU: CAS-ATC-03468
1 X Corsair Vengeance EXPO RGB 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - £199.99
SKU: MEM-CRS-03749
1 X Asus ROG Strix 1200w Platinum 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - £200.00
SKU: POW-ASU-03792
1 X AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £488.98
SKU: PRO-AMD-03517
1 X MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI (AMD AM5) B850 ATX Motherboard - £245.00
SKU: MOT-MSI-03993
1 X Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £89.98
SKU: COO-ARC-01992
Grand Total: £1,393.94

Will need to buy some additional fans too.
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Nope the flux comes with 6 fans.


Let's talk GPU's
 
mart1985 said:
Would this future proof me for a 4090/5080?

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1 X Antec Flux PRO Full Tower Case - Black - £169.99
SKU: CAS-ATC-03468
1 X Corsair Vengeance EXPO RGB 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - £199.99
SKU: MEM-CRS-03749
1 X Asus ROG Strix 1200w Platinum 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - £200.00
SKU: POW-ASU-03792
1 X AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £488.98
SKU: PRO-AMD-03517
1 X MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI (AMD AM5) B850 ATX Motherboard - £245.00
SKU: MOT-MSI-03993
1 X Arctic Liquid Freezer III ARGB High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £89.98
SKU: COO-ARC-01992
Grand Total: £1,393.94

Will need to buy some additional fans too.
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It's not a bad shout but I'd not use that PSU personally over something like the Seasonic Focus GX Gold or platforms based upon it:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £577.92 (includes delivery: £7.99)​


For a platinum rated PSU the Asus isn't a bad price, but you're not really gaining anything with a platinum rating and any energy savings over the years from the extra efficiency from gold are likely to be non existent, and 1200W for your usage is overkill to boot in my opinion. If you must go for Platinum I'd lean toward the Antec HCG line, the OEM being Seasonic.

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For reference, the Asus is built by Great Wall. They do build some excellent PSU's, and I don't think you'll go wrong even if sticking with that model tbh. I'm just offering other options which I personally find to be superior and often more cost effective.
 
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Would just get a 9070XT, you'll get around 85% of the 5080 performance for 50% of the price then upgrade again next gen when hopefully a node jump will bring better uplifts.

A 5080 only really makes sense if you can get the FE.
 
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Thank you for the advice @Gray2233 appreciate you offering those alternatives. I had assumed I would need a minimum 1200w but it appears that would only be necessary for the 5090. As I doubt I will go beyond the 5080, at least until future series, the 1000w offerings make more sense!
 
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Would just get a 9070XT, you'll get around 85% of the 5080 performance for 50% of the price then upgrade again next gen when hopefully a node jump will bring better uplifts.

A 5080 only really makes sense if you can get the FE.
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Would that require me to change any of my build? I've never run an AMD gpu before!
 
mart1985 said:
And the case fans are good enough without upgrade?

I was going to wait on either a 2nd hand 4090 or bite the bullet and get a 5080 with this build.
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The 4090 is faster but used worries me with lack of warranty , what are they going for used ?


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Cases Best Case of 2024 So Far: Antec Flux Pro Review & Benchmarks September 23, 2024 Last Updated: 2025-01-27 We examine the Antec Flux Pro’s specs, build quality, thermals, and more The Highlights The white version of Antec’s Flux Pro comes with a birch trim while the black version comes with...
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9070xt is another option which is 5% slower on average than the 5070 ti so mite be worth checking out comparison.

What resolution and game types you play ?
 
mart1985 said:
Thank you for the advice @Gray2233 appreciate you offering those alternatives. I had assumed I would need a minimum 1200w but it appears that would only be necessary for the 5090. As I doubt I will go beyond the 5080, at least until future series, the 1000w offerings make more sense!
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Actually, you only really need a good 1000W unit for a 5090:

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Companies tend to overspec on the basis many people buy weaker PSU's.

Frankly, were it me I'd spend £130-150 on something like a 1000W Superflower Leadex III 3.1.
 
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mickyflinn said:
The 4090 is faster but used worries me with lack of warranty , what are they going for used ?


Review.

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Best Case of 2024 So Far: Antec Flux Pro Review & Benchmarks | GamersNexus

Cases Best Case of 2024 So Far: Antec Flux Pro Review & Benchmarks September 23, 2024 Last Updated: 2025-01-27 We examine the Antec Flux Pro’s specs, build quality, thermals, and more The Highlights The white version of Antec’s Flux Pro comes with a birch trim while the black version comes with...
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9070xt is another option which is 5% slower on average than the 5070 ti so mite be worth checking out comparison.

What resolution and game types you play ?
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Currently more than new 5080s and agree on the lack of warranty.

Tend to game on my AW3225QF which is native 3840 x 2160. A mix of FPS and strategy games (cod/fortnite to total war/civ). No sims.
 
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