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Upgrade celeron to q6600

rossiboy001

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Hi Im just shopping around for a second hand q6600 for my daughters motherboard 775 socket. she currently is using a e3300 celeron.
First can I use the same heatsink and fan? Im pretty sure they will fit , but unsure of the heat differential, should I need to get more powerful heatsink fan ect.
Secondly without wanting to hijack another thread below which seems similar issues. Is this the best proccessor to look for for the 775 socket ? Should I be looking at the higher end duel cores ?
For example her gaming is outgrowing the less demanding games like sims and moving to racedriver grid.
For example on racedriver grid cant do more than half a lap without getting kicked, online or LAN. network is fine no issues with our bigger pc. just think the weakest link is the celeron.
Any help would be app thanks all
 
The Q6600 gives out much much more heat than any celeron processor. However, the stock heatsink should be fine for non-stressful situations.

I.E I imagine your daughter doesn't play games such as BFBC2 and Crysis which are CPU intensive.
Therefore I would also recommend you go for a high end dual core rather than a quad core. A quad core is only really beneficial in CPU intensive applications such as video and photo editing, 3D design etc etc.

You will see a much higher performance difference with a hgiher end dual core such as an E6500 and E8300.
Make sure you check your memory frequency in case you need to upgrade that as well.

It could also be possible that your GPU is letting her down, what graphics card have you got running?
 
Hi thanks for your reply , Her pc started of as a rather low end bit of kit, but as our other pc, has been upgraded, parts seem to migrate down to her.
Her motherboard started with intergrated graphics but is now running with gt220 nvidia.
Using grid as an example it wouldnt run at all on intergrated, shader issues and so on.
Grid would run with few issues on this card on an i5 hp system before it was migrated over to her.
So on that even though i know its a low end card it does the job.
ideally my budget would be £100 . I would like her to have the advantages of having several things running at same time smoothly Ie playing media monkey, facebook running behind, game running , all the things important for her lol.
Also you mention those games like crysis, Prehaps they dont have to run on full, but it would be desirable to be able to stand in a shop and not worry about spec when choosing games for her.
Also there is the performance which can be somewhat frustrating , sitting there mezmorized by that little windows circle when waiting lol
thanks
 
Hmm, that's not a bad card, that rules out the card then.
Yes, I put it down to your CPU and/or memory. Do you have the full system spec? Such as memory frequency, motherboard and memory amount etc.

To put it plain and simple, even when running Crysis on my E6300, I got the same FPS and loading times as I did when I upgraded to my Q6600.
Ideally however, you can get a higher end dual core for around £50-60 and a Q6600 quad core or similar for £60-80, so the price difference isn't that big.

Your Celeron however, is 800MHz FSB, while the higher end CPU's both dual and quad are 1066MHz clock speed. Thus you would most likely need to upgrade your memory too to get maximum performance.
 
Thanks Emphacy.
When you say "upgrade your memory" I assume your meaning RAM ?
Originally it only had 1GB DDR2. It now has 2 x 2 GB DDR2 Although it runs 32 Bit windows 7 so im only using 3.2 GB or thereabouts.
When you mention memory frequency, that kinda gives me images of messin with the bios ,
Im only a novice so bear with me ignorance. was assuming I just wack the new proccessor in, upgrade the paste, and re fit the heatsink n fan ?
cheers
 
If I am reading Emphacy right here he is meaning that would perhaps have to buy new RAM in order to get the most performance since your current is running slower than it would be with the new CPU.

Stoner81.
 
Ahh think im with you stoner 81
When I upgraded the ram, I just used one of those sites which scanned the pc and came back with the result, It was some time ago and was"nt paying attention to the Mhz.
Just checked and its currently running 2x PC2-6400. thats what crucial memory scanner is saying. Also says it does support other DDR2 8500 and 5300 versions.
Still I assume it will still run with its current spec, just not with full benefit. until i look at ram, gona check the overclockers site while im here now
cheers
 
PC2-6400 is normally 800MHz if my memory serves me right which is no slouch, since your daughter isn't really doing anything heavy duty like running games at high resolutions (1920x1080 or higher) then it should be fine. I doubt you will be overclocking the CPU either (not much point) so as binaryknight said you should be fine with the Q6600 at stock, nice and cheap upgrade but you will notice a difference.

If you can at some point I would recommend you to switch to a x64 version of Windows 7 (64bit) so you can use all the RAM of the system :)

Stoner81.
 
Thanks binaryknight.
You are correct the are 800mhz versions. Looking at overclockers seems im this project is gona make me spend more on the ram upgrade than the second hand proccessor lol. Seems like it opening a can of worms and one thing leads to another.
But from what you are saying my current ram will do the job, prehaps ill treat her at xmas on those fancy corsair dominators.
But even those are slower than my other our other pc"s basic DDR3"s which are 1333Mhz.
Leaving me to think maybe I should hold on to current ram with the quad proccessor until such time I migrate the P55 motherboard 8GB ram other to her in a year or so.
thanks
 
It is indeed a can of worms and then so m8 one of the joys of computing (and a pain in the bum at times). My advice would be to look at everything you would need to buy in order to do the upgrade and then have a look at the bundles on offer you might find you could buy an i3 bundle (motherboard, RAM and CPU) for nearly the same money, take your time and don't rush if you need any help then post and we will help :)

Stoner81.
 
Just looking at that now m8 , its only 50 quid away from a more modern system, when I add the Ram upgrade. Watching an quad now on ebay , maybe ill let it slip away lol.
Question is therefore If I look to spending a more modest sum on the proccessor only leaving the ram aside.
Would I get any significant improvement with the quad. Suppose Im askin is it worth it ?
Would I be better of holding on till xmas say and just going down the bundle road i5 or i3 for example, Armed with the £200 quid iv saved from not bothering at all with this upgrade. Decisions Decisions ???
 
Welcome to the wonderful world of computing m8 "decisions decisions and not enough money to do them all" (I know this feeling well), well you don't have to do the RAM upgrade since the RAM you have is fine. You would notice a massive difference upgrading to Quad Core you really will so depending on how much it will cost it could be worth it, ultimately you have to weigh up the cost involved for what you want the system to be able to do for your daughter. Would you buy the CPU brand new or second hand? Would you be willing to think about an AMD CPU if you did buy a bundle (they can be much cheaper though I prefer Intel myself).

You also mentioned about games like Crysis and such like and to "not have to worry about spec when buying games" well for that to happen your budget will have to go up in my honest opinion due to upgrading the video card too which in turn could mean a new PSU (that can of worms is getting bigger!).

I think at this point I would strongly advise you to sit down with a brew and really think about what the system needs to do for you to be happy with it, talk to your daughter and see what she what sort of games she wants to play, what she wants to do with the system etc etc. Your position gives you a great many options and it would be best to consider them (again in my opinion) :)

Of course if you want help with anything even the smallest thing then please feel free to ask :)

Stoner81.
 
There's absolutely no reason to change the ram you already have plenty at 4gb unless your daughters going to be running vms or rendering 3D or working in RAW media then it'll make no difference.

The same is true for the quad it will make a difference (over a c2d) in multithread programs like video encoding, GTA IV, BFBC2 but would make very little difference in everyday tasks or many games that are properly optimized for the PC.

The q6600 would be a worthwhile upgrade over the Celeron though but so would almost any of the core 2's.
 
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Thanks stoner81 and Mattyjw.
Forgive me If my thinking goes one way and then the over, as you say time to way up all the options.
So what im gathering is the proccessor upgrade alone. Should suffice to play any game. providing I moderate the graphics settings. (More to do with the graphics card than the proccessor prehaps) And the RAM will do the job.
So an investment of say second hand around £70 will see me through for now, until I migrate my sons motherboard over say in about a year or 2.
I just done recently an upgrade on my sons. from a HP i5, Replacing the 300W with a 750W PSU,Antec 1200 case, and a GAinward 560TI 2GB graphics. this should seem him through for a while.
The PSU and Nvidia 220 GT is now sitting in me daughters comp.
At some point in the future Ill migrate the His motherboard and i5 across to her. replacing his with a upgraded 3 channel board i7 in a year or 2 I would expect the six core intel versions to have dropped to a more realistic level.
But until that long day off (money permitting) Short term fix seems sound to go with the £70 or so second hand quad.
Sound best plan thought out so far sitting here with that cup of tea lol
thanks
 
Sorry Mick yeah for everyone the motherboard is a foxconn G31MX series .775 socket
Currently holding a wolfdale E3330 celeron. Motherboard chipset in CPUZ says P35/G33/G31
Im assuming all 775 socket motherboards will hold a quad ?
 
Is your motherboard this one then? ---> Click Me

If so then yes it supports Core 2 Quad :)

Stoner81.

PS - It would help to know the exact model number of your motherboard.

PPS - Yes getting the Quad would allow you to play better games and just turn down the graphics a little though I would recommend buying a decent cooler for the Quad you can probably get one for £10-20 give or take a bit so it would be say £90-100 all told.
 
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Thanks for going to the trouble of diggin out that stoner81
It looks identical though not sure how to find the serial number without opening it up and disturbing me daughters important facebook activities !!
But it looks to be the one.
 
CPU-Z will tell you what your main board is m8 ;)

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