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Redhat292

Redhat292

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I am in need of some advice! I have had a look around but I am still not sure which would be best. I mainly play games with minor webbrowsing and alt-tabbing at the same time.

Monitor: 1440p 60hz
CPU: Intel 2500k OC to 4.0GHz
RAM: 8GB DDR3
GPU: GTX 1070

I would like something that will perform for a few years. I like to upgrade the core of my tower every few years and in between that the other components get some love. This time around it is the following:

CPU
Motherboard
RAM
Budget: £1000

Use: gaming for all types of games. With the idea that these parts will last for 4-5 years and allow me to upgrade the GPU and Monitor in the next 18-24 months as I would like to move up to an ultrawide and 100-120hz. I am happy to overclock but nothing too extreme. I don't like the idea of risking a delid.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Redhat292 said:
Intel 2500k OC to 4.0GHz
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2500k can oc to 4.7/4.8 easy whilst you wait for the mobo to be stocked :p
 
AMD have confirmed that the AM4 socket will be supported until 2020 so the motherboard will be good for a CPU upgrade from a later generation. So should easily last 4-5 years
 
That Ryzen build would do fine tbh, but if that 1K is really burning a hole in your pocket, I think a build with more cores and threads is probably going to be doing a bit better in 4-5 years with the trend towards games better utilising more cores:

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^^^ damn, but I'd wait for Q4 for X499 > wasn't in the leaked Aorus slide featuring Z490 but is there .

Intel version your 4c/4t 4ghz Vs 6c/12t at 4.8ghz+

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WiFi on board and free copy of Farcry before the 31st of this month
 
Surely the intel route for gaming with some web browsing? Still the fastest gaming chip which should last 4-5 years. Although accept upgrade route requires a new mobo and not as good value when compared to ryzen.
 
energizer123 said:
Surely the intel route for gaming with some web browsing? Still the fastest gaming chip which should last 4-5 years. Although accept upgrade route requires a new mobo and not as good value when compared to ryzen.
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true still the fastest but take a lot of cooling to push the chip to what it can do . this would have been a soldered chip from the start , also costly . i7 8700 non K will still out perform 2600/2700 for pure gaming on 95% of tiles boost to 4.3gz on all cores.
current LGA should have 2 chip life cycle like the rest did - finger crossed
 
energizer123 said:
fair. i got a ryzen for a system i built for my brother on your recommendation, a 1600 with a gtx 1080. He's very pleased with it.
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Good to hear, for costs you can't beat ryzen . Still now ryzen 1600 + b350 board saves so much cash to out towards insane GPU prices . And least in a few years time he'll be able to drop zen2 second hand which should be a big worry for Intel :D
And the more amd eats into Intel's marketshare, better for them, and better for gamers and Intel will have to pull a finger out haha
 
BongoHunter said:
That Ryzen build would do fine tbh, but if that 1K is really burning a hole in your pocket, I think a build with more cores and threads is probably going to be doing a bit better in 4-5 years with the trend towards games better utilising more cores:

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That would be a waste of money if he is mainly gaming. A Ryzen 6c/12t would be far better value for money. If he needs anymore cores in the future then he can upgrade as and when.
 
lee32uk said:
That would be a waste of money if he is mainly gaming. A Ryzen 6c/12t would be far better value for money. If he needs anymore cores in the future then he can upgrade as and when.
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There are other perks to HEDT systems, near unlimited expandability, higher memory bandwidth, better storage options etc, great platforms for hardware nuts too; 8 NVME drive RAID array? No problem!

I've just always found high end to last a long time, and for that reason - to be good value.

Also let's you be quite lazy / indulgent with the way you use your PC :) for example I can leave VMs running, software compiling, and a browser open with a billion tabs - and I can still run any game I want and not even think about it! :D
 
BongoHunter said:
There are other perks to HEDT systems, near unlimited expandability, higher memory bandwidth, better storage options etc, great platforms for hardware nuts too; 8 NVME drive RAID array? No problem!

I've just always found high end to last a long time, and for that reason - to be good value.

Also let's you be quite lazy / indulgent with the way you use your PC :) for example I can leave VMs running, software compiling, and a browser open with a billion tabs - and I can still run any game I want and not even think about it! :D
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How is that useful for the op's needs though ? He mentions gaming with minor web browsing. That doesn't need a 12 core cpu. He could easily get a 6 core Ryzen, B350 board and 16GB Ram for £400. That is a £600 saving over your suggestion and it will play games just as well. Then 4 - 5 years down the line IF he needs a cpu upgrade then he can buy whatever the current one is.
 
lee32uk said:
How is that useful for the op's needs though ? He mentions gaming with minor web browsing. That doesn't need a 12 core cpu. He could easily get a 6 core Ryzen, B350 board and 16GB Ram for £400. That is a £600 saving over your suggestion and it will play games just as well. Then 4 - 5 years down the line IF he needs a cpu upgrade then he can buy whatever the current one is.
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Well you seem like a wonderfully nice chap...

We're on a hardware enthusiast forum - apologies for being enthusiastic about hardware, just putting something out there, not forcing anything on anyone, I did start my post from last week with:

That Ryzen build would do fine tbh, but if that 1K is really burning a hole in your pocket...
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BongoHunter said:
Well you seem like a wonderfully nice chap...


We're on a hardware enthusiast forum - apologies for being enthusiastic about hardware, just putting something out there, not forcing anything on anyone, I did start my post from last week with:
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Not everyone on here wants/needs the top end hardware though. We are here to try and give the best advice for people spending their money. The op mentions wanting to upgrade his gpu/monitor in the next 18 - 24 months. Going the Ryzen route would leave him with £600 or so to put towards that.
 
isnt there benchmarks showing threadrippers are weak for gaming? pretty sure they only excel in the multitasking of advance editing/design and so on software as well as many browser tabs and multiple non gaming things in the background.
 
if a cooler isnt supplied with the cpu then you got enough to get one, you got plenty to get the i7, but there wouldnt be any need.

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and this is for an idea with a gpu and screen, obviously cant quote new range gpu and this monitor probably more than youd probably want, as i said its just for an idea.

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minus that particular screen, if you sold your 1070 you could get that 1080ti if you get that intel build or a ryzen build under £500 as it only equates to 200 over budget then save up for the screen.
 
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