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Upgrade from 4850 - 5770 worthwhile?

joewm18

joewm18

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Hi all,

Currently I have a 4850 512mb at 675/1100 which I've had for a while and has served me well.

The rest of my system is:

Phenom 2 965 @3.8GHz
4gb 1600MHz RAM
Hiper Type R 480w PSU
24" Benq LED monitor 1920x1080
Win 7 64bit
etc etc.

Would the upgrade from a 4850 512mb to a 5770 1gb be worthwhile?

Currently bad company 2 is my baby and I am running on all settings maxed at 1920x1080 with no AA and HBAO off and getting decent frame rates. I'd like to be able to play with AA and possibly HBAO on, will the 5770 handle this?

Opinions please!
 
Hay sort of same as me :)

I am also upgrading from 4850 to 5770 or 4890

Using hiper type r 580w res 1920x1080

With your PSU i would go with 5770 1 gig version.

From what ppl have said to me the 5770 a little bit faster then 4870. ( i could be wrong on that )

In my view i would get 5770 in your shoes if add that extra power to add some AA :)

If its worthwhile well i am doing myself but if i had extra i would go with 5850 if you can but that would mean upgrading yeah PSU
 
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No. What you are doing is essentially upgrading from HD4850 to a HD4870 that runs at lower temp with a bit of overclocking headroom and with dx11 support (HD5770). To see significant boost in performance (and taking into the account of frame rate diving when gaming in dx 11 mode), you really should get a HD5850, or if you don't mind no dx11...grab a HD4890 instead.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
No. What you are doing is essentially upgrading from HD4850 to a HD4870 that runs at lower temp with a bit of overclocking headroom and with dx11 support (HD5770). To see significant boost in performance (and taking into the account of frame rate diving when gaming in dx 11 mode), you really should get a HD5850, or if you don't mind no dx11...grab a HD4890 instead.
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I second that. My mate just bought a 5770 and he loves it but when we checked out my 4870 in comparison the charts showed my 4870 to be just a tad better (obviously charts aren't exactly flawless). The only improvements you'll see are lower power consumption, lower temps, plus DX11 compatibility.

The HD5770 can be overclocked higher than your current 4870, but I still would not consider the "upgrade" as a worthwhile expense.

It would be a difference story if someone were deciding between buying the 4870 or the 5770 brand new.
 
I would quite like the dx11 skills and extra oomph for AA in bad company 2. I've always been a budget pc'er so wouldn't really justify spending too much more than a 5770.

Is there new tech around the corner which I may miss out on if I invest in the 5770? DX12 for instance?

Another option would be to find another cheap 4850, but would the 512mb limit me in bad company 2? I'm thinking it would.

If I can sell my 4850 and get a 5770 at least it would be a cheap jump :S as mentioned also I know that my PSU could handle it also. Hmmmmm will have a think.
 
joewm18 said:
I would quite like the dx11 skills and extra oomph for AA in bad company 2. I've always been a budget pc'er so wouldn't really justify spending too much more than a 5770.

Is there new tech around the corner which I may miss out on if I invest in the 5770? DX12 for instance?

Another option would be to find another cheap 4850, but would the 512mb limit me in bad company 2? I'm thinking it would.

If I can sell my 4850 and get a 5770 at least it would be a cheap jump :S as mentioned also I know that my PSU could handle it also. Hmmmmm will have a think.
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No. dx11 only came out last October...so dx12 won't be around the horizon anytime soon (if ever). Get a 5770 1GB if you really can sell your 4850 512MB, but I think the max you can get for it is probably £45~£50.

Since you mentioned considered about getting another 4850, I assume your motherboard support xfire. If it does, getting a 5770 1GB now, and add another one to xfire in the future if necessary does seem to fit your scenerio the best if you really can't afford a 5850 now as you say.
 
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5770 will be about 15 fps better than the 4850 at that res in that game when overclocked, personally I wouldn't pay much for that upgrade though.

If you can get £45-£50 for the 4850 and try and bag a second hand 5770 for £90 or less I am all for it.
 
3.8 -> 5.9 by their accounts

Thats quite a big baseline improvement + more ram + lower temps + less noise + more overclocking.
 
Ah crap, I thought you said you had a 4870 and was thinking of upgrading to a 5770. Sorry my bad.

So going from a 4850 to a 5770 would be an upgrade but it's still not worth while. Maybe you could look into overclocking the 4850, mod your cooling on it and you'll get more punch out of it.
 
As posted above, my opinion is that it's worth going from the 4850 to the 5770 because it's a decent upgrade all round for a £120-130 card. Ok it's not going to be amazing but I don't think you can go wrong for the price. It's going to be better in every way a graphics upgrade can be.

Now, am I missing something here? In other threads when people consider upgrading from a GTX 275/280/285 to a £235+ 5850, everyone says go for it, it's a great upgrade! To me that seems a lot of money for the kind of increase you would get. Slightly off-topic and not aimed at anyone here, just the advice given in other threads

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To me that seems a lot of money for the kind of increase you would get.
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The same can be said for paying £130 for as little as 15-20% boost in performance (not to mention a single 5770 would struggle in dx11 mode for some games). Only worth considering if the 4850 can be sold for a reasonable price and contribute toward recuperating the cost buying the 5770.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
The same can be said for paying £130 for as little as 15-20% boost in performance (not to mention a single 5770 would struggle in dx11 mode for some games). Only worth considering if the 4850 can be sold for a reasonable price and contribute toward recuperating the cost buying the 5770.
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So with a 5850 being double the price of a 5770, does that mean that a 5850 is 30-40% faster than a GTX 275?
 
If you can sell the 4850 and buy the 5770 for an outlay of £40-£50 then I would say it's worth it going higher than that is not.

Like I would sell my 6420 for a q6600 but not if the outlay was more than £40-£50.
 
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So with a 5850 being double the price of a 5770, does that mean that a 5850 is 30-40% faster than a GTX 275?
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You are missing the point. Take AVP in dx11 mode in 1920x1080+, max quality, 4xAA for example, 5770's minimum frame rate would hit the low end of the 20s, while the 5850 would keep the minimum frame rate afloat over 30 at all time. It's really down to peoples' expectation of how smooth and at what details would the dx11 games run on the card they are using.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
You are missing the point. Take AVP in dx11 mode in 1920x1080+, max quality, 4xAA for example, 5770's minimum frame rate would hit the low end of the 20s, while the 5850 would keep the minimum frame rate afloat over 30 at all time. It's really down to peoples' expectation of how smooth and at what details would the dx11 games run on the card they are using.
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Obviously the 5850 is better, it's twice as expensive. But it isn't twice as fast. Thats why I could not say that the 5770 is a bad card.
 
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Obviously the 5850 is better, it's twice as expensive. But it isn't twice as fast. Thats why I could not say that the 5770 is a bad card.
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Most people consider minimum frame rate below 25 as 'unplayable/not smooth'...the extra 5-15fps above 25 on minimum frame rate make huge difference in terms of smoothless for game play, which is why most people consider 5850 as such a decent upgrade, as it is comfortably capable of playing dx11 games maxed out, not borderline like 5770. 5770 is 'ok' for playing dx11 games in high res if lowering AA to x2 and effect quality to medium, but definitely not ideal.
 
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